Mr.Cat Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287558429' post='2180959']What I replied to accused those that do not like this piece of art as being closed minded so much so that even the words of the artist would not even listen to the words of the artist. Miss Scripture, Socrates and perhaps others as well (idk haven't read that much of this thread) felt you were insulting.[/quote]Feeling someone is being insulting is easy... proving someone is insulting is another matter. If you have no proof, you have no case. Which I couldn't imagine why you would want to feel something without anything to substantiate it. Although, I think we are well aware of some of the personal histories and associations involved in this, I won't be bothered to engage in an "us vs them" conversation on the open mic. Though if you wanted to move to the back alley, feel welcome. Not closed minded... Like I said before, "[i]Art reflects as much the artist as it reflects the viewer of the art.[/i]" That can be dependent upon so many factors... So bringing the artists in may not change that. Funny that I [u][b]didn't[/b][/u] say "[i]closed minded[/i]"... Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287558617' post='2180961'] Feeling someone is being insulting is easy... proving someone is insulting is another matter. If you have no proof, you have no case. Which I couldn't imagine why you would want to feel something without anything to substantiate it. Although, I think we are well aware of some of the personal histories and associations involved in this, I won't be bothered to engage in an "us vs them" conversation on the open mic. Though if you wanted to move to the back alley, feel welcome. [/quote] You implied Socrates was perverted. But hey whatever. Pax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287558675' post='2180962']You implied Socrates was perverted. But hey whatever. [/quote]Hmm... No I didn't... I implied that Socrates proposed the image had sexual themes of some kind, in his perspective. Others have expressed the same but Socrates definitely highlighted it the most. Maybe you think that the admission of these facts are accusations... Maybe because you don't have anything, you would rather just say I "[i]implied[/i]" it... COULD you show me please where I implied this? Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287444089' post='2180537'] WOW!!! You think the image is sexually attractive in some way? Serious problems dude. [/quote] You honestly don't see anything wrong with implying that someone is somehow sexually dysfunctional (because, seriously, what else would "serious problems" indicate in this scenario) because they don't like the way an artist has rendered an image of the Blessed Mother? You're fighting awfully hard to disprove something that multiple people have taken as an insult. Maybe it would just be better to admit that you didn't mean it to be an attack and you phrased it poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Relax guys. We shouldnt be fighting over something so silly. Some people like it, others don't. Don't let a missunderstanding come between ya. :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think if Our Lady was here she would be busy resisting the temptation to wring both of y'alls necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpence Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287444089' post='2180537'] WOW!!! You think the image is sexually attractive in some way? Serious problems dude. [/quote] When I saw this comment I assumed you were joking...it is very obvious that Mary looks quite attractive in this picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1287584444' post='2180997']You honestly don't see anything wrong with implying that someone is somehow sexually dysfunctional (because, seriously, what else would "serious problems" indicate in this scenario) because they don't like the way an artist has rendered an image of the Blessed Mother? You're fighting awfully hard to disprove something that multiple people have taken as an insult. Maybe it would just be better to admit that you didn't mean it to be an attack and you phrased it poorly. [/quote]I reference post [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=109034&view=findpost&p=2180930"]#55[/url], I didn't imply anyone was sexually dysfunctional in anyway. There are people on Phatmass because of their inability to let go would like to imagine me as their enemy, because of this they interpret what I write in that light. I have already explicitly and repeatedly said what you advised previously. The only thing I haven't done yet is apologize, but if Socrates who has belittled me so frequently in the past would benefit from an apology, sure... I apologize, it was not my intention to accuse sexual dysfunction or perversion. [quote name='Lilllabettt' timestamp='1287589304' post='2181011']I think if Our Lady was here she would be busy resisting the temptation to wring both of y'alls necks.[/quote]So that's the feeling of mortal terror I am feeling?[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1287589420' post='2181013']When I saw this comment I assumed you were joking...it is very obvious that Mary looks quite attractive in this picture...[/quote]Yes, my comment was [b]utterly oosing[/b] with sarcasm. But your right and I agree, they do attempt to make Our Lady appear attractive, a crime I suppose, but the claim of making her appear "[i]sexy[/i]" or "[i]sexual[/i]" beyond being female and a teenager is beyond me. His almost explicit accusation that the image is perverted is rather offending, like I would have no qualms with bringing such things to Phatmass posting it on Open Mic... Though I suppose that wasn't his intention at all in replying so thoroughly to the topic. Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Lilllabettt' timestamp='1287589304' post='2181011'] I think if Our Lady was here she would be busy resisting the temptation to wring both of y'alls necks. [/quote] word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287556866' post='2180951'] I don't think the people who want to project their own feelings onto the image would listen even to the artists involved. I'm not sure why people can be so fickle about art. [/quote] because it's art and therefore is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1287585439' post='2181004'] Relax guys. We shouldnt be fighting over something so silly. Some people like it, others don't. Don't let a missunderstanding come between ya. :] [/quote] first time to phatmass, hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1287592462' post='2181029'] first time to phatmass, hmmm? [/quote] innocence of a child [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/saint.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287536399' post='2180857'] . . .blah, blah, blah . . . [b][u]please[/u][/b] do ignore me. [/quote] Done. May God grant you many joyful years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1287601016' post='2181067']Done.[/quote]Thank you for accepting my apology and replying with the respectful candor that we have come to appreciate from you. Again I sincerely apologize if you can't handle friendly discussion or what you dish up.[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1287601016' post='2181067']May God grant you many joyful years.[/quote]If you really meant it, I would be touched. But thank you anyways, at least there is the attempt. Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287601162' post='2181068'] Thank you for accepting my apology and replying with the respectful candor that we have come to appreciate from you. Again I sincerely apologize if you can't handle friendly discussion or what you dish up.If you really meant it, I would be touched. But thank you anyways, at least there is the attempt. [/quote] [img]http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/chanwo/mindreader.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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