spathariossa Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='BurkeFan' date='Dec 9 2004, 04:28 AM'] What was the reason for all of a sudden declaring the divinity of Christ all of a sudden in the 4th century? Re: head coverings Many of my best female friends got chapel veils for Christmas. [/quote] I don't follow. Are you referring to the question of Christ's two co-equal but unconfused natures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurkeFan Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='spathariossa' date='Dec 9 2004, 04:33 AM'] I don't follow. Are you referring to the question of Christ's two co-equal but unconfused natures? [/quote] Yeah. My point was that it wasn't declared to be a doctrine out of the blue, but because it was true and the Church held it to be true. Celibacy was already practiced, it was not as if the rule was some draconic measure against the priests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 some people need more of an open mind........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Dec 8 2004, 07:05 AM'] No it is not required for a Latin Mass, it is simply custom. The same canon law applies to both. [/quote] This is not entirely true. At the LAtin Mass, one follows the liturgical laws of the Church as they were applied in 1962. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Dec 9 2004, 12:29 AM'] So... what do you all think of head coverings...? [/quote] If not required, highly recommended. I'll stick with St. Paul and the practice of the Church for her entire history, until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiL Kat Said Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I think i like the idea of wearing a head covering. But where would i get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='spathariossa' date='Dec 9 2004, 12:38 AM'] This has nothing to do with a movie. I've been Catholic for 20 years. I think I know the differences between the churches. [/quote] Since you were born in 1983, I somehow doubt you have been studying the differences with a critical eye for 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Dec 9 2004, 01:59 PM'] This is not entirely true. At the LAtin Mass, one follows the liturgical laws of the Church as they were applied in 1962. [/quote] Nope. There is only one canon law in the Church, and head coverings are not mentioned in it. It is custom in the Latin Mass, not a requirement. You cannot throw a woman out if she does not choose to cover her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Dec 9 2004, 01:56 PM'] Since you were born in 1983, I somehow doubt you have been studying the differences with a critical eye for 20 years. [/quote] Give her a break. Besides she did not say that she was studing the Church for twenty years, she said she was Catholic for twenty years. Lets not bring age into this. Young does not equal dumb. I know fourteen year olds that know a heck of a lot more about the Catholic Church, it's history, dogma, doctrines and teaching than some fiftey five year olds that have been in the Church their entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Dec 9 2004, 03:02 PM'] Nope. There is only one canon law in the Church, and head coverings are not mentioned in it. It is custom in the Latin Mass, not a requirement. You cannot throw a woman out if she does not choose to cover her head. [/quote] The Indult (by its very definition) is a derivation from the norm. It is a canonical function that, in this case, allows the Latin Mass communities to apply the litugical laws as they stood in 1962. Will you get thrown out for not wearing a veil? Not likely. Will you be privately asked to wear one? In some places. It's subject to local implementation/enforcement. It is certainly more than a mere custom (of course depending on how you define that term). Does it carry the force of law? That's a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 [quote name='Balthazor' date='Dec 9 2004, 04:11 PM'] Give her a break. Besides she did not say that she was studing the Church for twenty years, she said she was Catholic for twenty years. Lets not bring age into this. Young does not equal dumb. I know fourteen year olds that know a heck of a lot more about the Catholic Church, it's history, dogma, doctrines and teaching than some fiftey five year olds that have been in the Church their entire life. [/quote] The implication was clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Choose to Be Holy Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 just remember everyone, not to too caught up in the "law" and forget the faith part. Whether its kneeling or veils, you shouldn't be doing it because it is required but rather interiorize it and do it out of love and faith. Jesus came to save us from the law so lets not revert back to it. In Alberta, we don't kneel. I have had many discussions with priests, religious, and bishops about it and i guess even though Vatican says yes, if your bishops or priests say no, you go with what your community is doing, because Mass is a community thing. Plus, even if you don't phyiscally kneel, you can still kneel with your heart and you always should, regardless of where your body is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Your priest or bishop does not have the authority to contradict Church law. THe Community does not set the standard, the Church does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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