Why is this oddly not hard to swallow?

[Desert Walker]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='969639' date='May 3 2006, 10:19 AM']
which is why I say it's impossible within our universe. you have to find a way to leave our universe and come back at a different spot.

I hear green and yellow rings help with that
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Here is something from the site about how they are allegedly able to travel 40 plus lightyears without worrying about the passage of time.

[quote]4) The ability of some ETs to manipulate and transcend time is referenced in Dan Sherman's book, Above Black.

Dan Sherman wrote a book, Above Black, in which he reveals how he was groomed and trained as a telepathic communicator with a race of ETs from and about whom he received data but never actually met – in preparation for an anticipated catastrophic event. He learned information that appears to corroborate the difficult reports by Anonymous that time is in some way experienced differently by the Ebens and/or in the Ebens' environment, with a corresponding distortion of physical laws as we would understand them.

Sherman states that he learned that "time" – as we humans know it – does not have the same meaning for them. They still age as we do but are not bound by the physics of time as we currently are. Their means of travel across vast distances is heavily dependent on the manipulation of time but not as we perceive it.

Sherman enquired whether they can travel through time, i.e. whether they can go backwards and forwards in time. He was told that it was not possible to witness a reality that occurred in some other time but the present: in order to go back in time, one must assume that there exists a reference point from which to measure backward or forward. This is an impossibility. Essentially, they weren't able to travel through time – rather, around time and from time. Sherman states that he never really understood what this meant. Their mode of propulsion was somehow that they used both time and electromagnetic energy. Sherman was also told that our sun was very unique; and that someday we would understand how it really worked and how we could utilize the same methods that they themselves use but on a smaller scale.[/quote]

Edited May 3, 2006 by Desert Walker

[God Conquers]

[quote]An [s]over[/s] [i]nonexistent[/i] 3,000 page report of this project was [s]compiled[/s][i]fabricated[/i] and is now on file in a [s]currently undisclosed location[/s] looneybin.[/quote]

I've uncovered the hidden meaning!

[OLAM Dad]

[quote name='Desert Walker' post='969635' date='May 3 2006, 11:18 AM']
I'm not so sure that the speed of light and the speed (or temperature) of molecules is a valid comparison of physical principles. But even if it is, that still doesn't negate the possibility of faster than light travel, because linear travel in a spatial matrix may not be the only way to transport oneself from one spatial location to another. And it may be that the spatial matrix, as we have currently defined it, is not actually as we have currently defined it.
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If we were able to do this we wouldn't technically be travelling faster than light. We could say, however, that we can get somewhere quicker than light can.

[Desert Walker]

[quote name='OLAM Dad' post='969747' date='May 3 2006, 11:14 AM']
If we were able to do this we wouldn't technically be travelling faster than light. We could say, however, that we can get somewhere quicker than light can.
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Yes. I know. :


[quote name='God Conquers' post='969733' date='May 3 2006, 11:09 AM']
I've uncovered the hidden meaning!
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be don't lame

Edited May 3, 2006 by Desert Walker

[Desert Walker]

If you think speeds faster than light are not possible, think again.

www.stardrivedevice.com

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

Does Santa Claus know about this?

Interesting read, but I cannot bring myself to believe in ETs.

[Aloysius]

[quote name='Desert Walker' post='969900' date='May 3 2006, 03:46 PM']
If you think speeds faster than light are not possible, think again.

www.stardrivedevice.com
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do you know how many of my brain cells committed suicide while listening to that sales pitch? I no longer know French thanks to that link.

[MichaelFilo]

The speed of light, or 300 million miles per a second is actually not the fastest anything can go, the only reason this is the suspect top speed is because electromagnetic waves (of which light is one) can travel at that speed through a vacuum. We have been able to slow it down (glasses do this), but never to speed it up, but again, it's not outside the realm of impossibility.

God bless,
Mikey

[Aloysius]

but at that speed matter becomes pure energy, that is why it's considered the fastest possible speed. I've actually been very convinced of this speed in my own personal amateur physics investigations as well. but at the very least it is clear that material cannot travel even at the speed of light, much less faster, in our universe.

[Desert Walker]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='970076' date='May 3 2006, 04:28 PM']
but at that speed matter becomes pure energy, that is why it's considered the fastest possible speed. I've actually been very convinced of this speed in my own personal amateur physics investigations as well. but at the very least it is clear that material cannot travel even at the speed of light, much less faster, in our universe.
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The only reason matter becomes energy at those speeds is because a material object, travelling at speeds approaching 186,000 mps, experiences an increase in mass. It ends up needing to push against the whole unvierse to keep going, which is the reason Einstein said that those speeds require infinite amounts of energy.

But what if you could change the FREQUENCY of the object's atomic structure? What if you could decrease your spacecraft's mass to near zero? That changes the whole bag of potatoes.

There are some young physicists who are working on this. Quantum mechanics has shown us that "particles" like electrons behave like waves AND particles, meaning atomic structures have a wave frequency. And someone has determined that mass itself is determined by this atomic frequency. Some not too widely known experiments are showing that, utilizing the electromagnetic force, it is possible to arbitrarilly increase or decrease the the frequency of material objects, and thus their mass value.

If you construct a "mass-flux" spacecraft you can break straight through the speed of light and reach the stars.

Guess what some of these young physicists are basing their work on?

The aerial behavior of UFOs; both those they themselves have seen, and the accounts of those others have seen.

[Jaime]

The closer you get to the speed of light, the greater your density and weight grows.

[Desert Walker]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='970798' date='May 4 2006, 08:58 AM']
The closer you get to the speed of light, the greater your density and weight grows.
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But those properties are determined by mass value. Lower the mass value, or "mass gravity effect," and you reduce density and weight.

Astronomers have actually observed this happening in black hole regions. Mass is being ejected at two or three times light speed. This would be impossible, UNLESS the mass of the material is in a state of REDUCTION rather than "increasion." The theory is that the electromagnetic forces in black holes reduce the mass of matter down to the photonic level.

If matter's mass is not increasing as it accelerates, then it can easily pass 99.9% lightspeed, because Einstein's acceleration=mass increase effect is stopped.

[Jaime]

[quote name='Desert Walker' post='970831' date='May 4 2006, 10:18 AM']
But those properties are determined by mass value. Lower the mass value, or "mass gravity effect," and you reduce density and weight.

Astronomers have actually observed this happening in black hole regions. Mass is being ejected at two or three times light speed. This would be impossible, UNLESS the mass of the material is in a state of REDUCTION rather than "increasion." The theory is that the electromagnetic forces in black holes reduce the mass of matter down to the photonic level.

If matter's mass is not increasing as it accelerates, then it can easily pass 99.9% lightspeed, because Einstein's acceleration=mass increase effect is stopped.
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Um... yeah... well

ZOINKERS IS THAT A GIANT LEMUR BEHIND YOU!??!











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