Loyola Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 I'm not into tattoos, but I do like branding myself with hot irons....lol j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow of Shame Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 People who are involved in scarification think it's beautiful, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mater Dolorosa Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 My beloved and I are thinking about getting a St. Michael tattoo on our left shoulder....Protection from evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) I'll seperate this in to 2 parts. Biblical: Passage Exodus 21:6 (See also Deut. 15:17) 6 then his master must take him before the judges. [a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life. ~Every issue in the Bible that speaks about tattoos and pierced body parts are all in a negative sense. The first tattoo or "mark" as it says in the Scriptures was given to Cain for murdering his brother. And to the Isrealites to track them while they were slaves. It mentions in Exodous how they had to remove all their jewelry when they fasioned the golden calf. [b] The negativty of body art is still a mainstream factor...[/b] Motivational factors Between 10% and 26% of adults younger than 26 have at least one tattoo.1 One university study revealed that 23% of students had 1 to 3 tattoos, and 51% had 1 or more piercings (other than earlobe piercings for women).2 In the late 1980s, fewer than 1% of the general population had tattoos.[b]3 Among younger individuals today, 8% to 13% of those between the ages of 12 and 18 already have at least 1 tattoo, and 30% to 50% are contemplating one.1 When polled, teenagers who have tattoos indicated that counterculturalism, defiance, and the desire to express their independence motivated their decision to be tattooed.4 Most said that they did not have parental permission when they underwent tattooing.[/b] [i] Courtesy of Paitent Care and David M. Deci, MD who wrote this article[/i] Outside of the religious sphere. Studying to be a doctor I have noticed these problems: [b]Medical implications[/b] Both tattooing and piercing techniques employ needles that disrupt skin integrity, placing the recipient at risk for infection. Specific skin pathogens such as Staphylococcus aureus can lead to carbuncles, impetigo, cellulitis, bacteremia, and toxic shock syndrome. Infection with group A beta-hemolytic Streptococcus can give rise to impetigo and cellulite as well as erysipelas, septic arthritis, glomerulonephritis, and endocarditis. Nose and ear piercings can be prone to infections with Pseudomonas aeruginosa, resulting in a necrotic chondritis that may require disfiguring surgical resections. One study revealed that 30% of ear piercings were complicated by redness and swelling, 26% by drainage, and 11% by persistent bleeding, while another 3% resulted in large or disfiguring scars.7 Another study reported on an outbreak of P aeruginosa infection following commercial piercing of the upper ear cartilage, a procedure that poses more risk than earlobe piercing.8 Other skin-borne infections associated with body art include Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium tuberculosis. Transmission of viral infections through poor technique and use of contaminated needles has been linked to hepatitis B virus (HBV), hepatitis C virus (HCV), hepatitis D virus (HDV), human papillomavirus, and HIV. A 2003 study of 626 subjects found that having a commercially applied tattoo was strongly associated with hepatitis C seropositivity, although not a history of acute hepatitis.9 The CDC's position statement regarding bloodborne pathogens including HBV, HCV, and HIV is that while any percutaneous exposure has the potential for transmission, there is no data that tattooing alone was responsible for an increased risk of HCV infection in the United States. Yet concern about person-to-person transmission of occult viral infections has prompted the FDA to restrict blood donation for 1 year after tattooing or piercing.10 Body art can have lasting effects other than those caused by skin infections. Pigments used in tattooing can provoke allergic reactions, scarring, and keloid formation. Iron pigment, used to impart a red color to tattoos, can complicate the diagnostic use of MRI scans because of the magnetic nature of the iron oxide compounds. This can lead to extreme pain at the tattoo site during MRI. Piercings have their own medical complications. Nipple and areolar piercings can lead to chronic irritation, accidental trauma, milk duct fistulae, and impairment of breastfeeding. Piercings of the male genitalia can lead to urethral rupture, sinus tract formation, penile scarring, and sexual impairment. Oral piercings may cause gum tissue injury, gingival recession, tooth chipping, and sialorrhea. Speech impairment is common, and instances of traumatic tongue swelling and choking caused by aspiration of tongue and lip jewelry have been reported. You figure that if we got all these harmful infections God would want us to be tatooed he would have made us that way. We are human and tattoing is a human invention. Humans are sinful. And every negative aspect in the Bible and Medical speak out against it. Whether we are binding by levitical law of not. Edited June 19, 2006 by Convert4888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 If you go to a reputable tattoo artist who uses fresh, sterilized instruments for each tattoo, you shouldn't have to worry about hepatitis or other blood-based pathogens. And while pierced ears may have been a symbol of slavery 6,000 years ago, things have changed a little in the intervening time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I'm fickle about art. I cannot imagine any piece of art that I would want to see on my body for the next 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) [quote]And while pierced ears may have been a symbol of slavery 6,000 years ago, things have changed a little in the intervening time. [/quote] How can you be so sure of that. God never stated that it was okay. He never said that you can have one. Every instance in the Bible concerning tattoos was negative. [quote]If you go to a reputable tattoo artist who uses fresh, sterilized instruments for each tattoo, you shouldn't have to worry about hepatitis or other blood-based pathogens[/quote] And how can you be so sure that the guy giving you body art is actually using a sterile needle. He doesn't care about your health he just wants your money. And blood based pathogens happen anyway. Because, you damage the skin with needles and ink. And homeschoolmom had a good idea. Years from now when your a grandma and you still have it, You probably will hate it. Both my grandfathers have tatoos and they regret them big time. Edited June 19, 2006 by Convert4888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 If Sojourner becomes a grandpa she's probably ticked God off in more ways than tattooing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) I guess I had no idea that Sojourner was a girl. My apologies. Edited June 19, 2006 by Convert4888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 [quote name='Convert4888' post='1008137' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:16 AM'] How can you be so sure of that. God never stated that it was okay. He never said that you can have one. Every instance in the Bible concerning tattoos was negative. And how can you be so sure that the guy giving you body art is actually using a sterile needle. He doesn't care about your health he just wants your money. And blood based pathogens happen anyway. Because, you damage the skin with needles and ink. And homeschoolmom had a good idea. Years from now when your a grandma and you still have it, You probably will hate it. Both my grandfathers have tatoos and they regret them big time. [/quote] The one time tattooing is mentioned (time, not times) it is indeed negative. But as I noted earlier, if you're going to abide by that mention, then I hope you're not shaving your beard or cutting the hair at the side of your head. And hopefully you're not wearing any clothing made of more than one type of material. God never said that was OK. Most tattoo artists do have a vested interest in keeping customers healthy. Many people who get tattoos get more than one (I have three). If the tattoo artist wants to stay in business and get repeat customers, he'll use sterile instruments. Plus there are regulations about such things. And whether or not I think I'll regret it is my business. It doesn't make it right or wrong ... it's a factor to be weighed in the decision-making process. [quote name='Convert4888' post='1008141' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:21 AM'] I guess I had no idea that Sojourner was a girl. My apologies. [/quote] Yeah. I'm a girl. Most definitely. Haven't been mistaken for a boy really ever, except online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Make my steak rare... Okay medium rare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1008147' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:34 AM'] Make my steak rare... Okay medium rare... [/quote] Sinner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I'm using a poly-cotton napkin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Just don't wear it and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 But for the record, I wouldn't get a tattoo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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