franciscanheart Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Anyone heard of or sung this song? I just got a copy of it from a friend from high school and I can't stop singing it. (We sung it as a varsity choir and it was like our favorite... it was always done at the VERY end of the year along with 'Like An Eagle' - *heart melts*. It was great.) Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domine ut Videam Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Oh my gosh we had to sing that song for our choir and i HATED it with a passion. But then i hate african songs.....so that is probably why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I can't say that I have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 Really? Too funny... It's so upbeat and the solos rock and not having things like pianos or violins really let us show off our talents. We had so much fun working together on that one. You can groove to it.. I don't think I've ever met anyone that didn't like it... ----------------- I can't remember the spelling but I'll sound it out or something... Vyum bvyote vya mungu etu nama fal me wet tu. Haha... something like that. *dances* ----------------- Icey: You should see if you can find a recording of it! I bet the girls would really have fun with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I'll have to look around and see what I can find... I am sure you're right, they love music in general, and especially upbeat tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 iTunes has it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I just about posted "bless you". get it? sounded like a sneeze???. Man. I'm lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelusdomini Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 [quote name='hugheyforlife' post='1085091' date='Oct 5 2006, 05:59 PM'] Vyum bvyote vya mungu etu nama fal me wet tu. [/quote] Vyumbe vyote vya Mungu wetu na mfalme wet.- All creatures of our God and our King. This is a Swahili Song. I am not sure of its origins though (in the vernacular because off course the translation has equivalence to that song attributed to St. Francis of Assissi.) [quote]Oh my gosh we had to sing that song for our choir and i HATED it with a passion. But then i hate african songs.....so that is probably why. [/quote] Now, I'm probably going to assume that you are referring to the unfortunately all too pravalant presentation of African music at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with for too loud and hard a drum beat and not to mention the other percussions that would be involved as well. However, I do believe that some of that expression is legitimate albeit a little unbridled and that is something that needs to be improved upon. As an African- one who speaks Kiswahili as well, I can tell you that some of the most moving hymns I have heard (other than thos in Latin) have been in said language. The translations and references to various idioms in Latin or in the bible are even better than those I have found in the English language. Now, there has been a move especially within the last 15-20 years to remove all those "extra controls" exercised by the universal (read European Church). There has been a move away from a regular exposition of the faithful to the use of Latin and the liturgy and a much heavier emphasis on the use of the vernacular- drums and all. This has come with the authorisation and encouragement of various episcopal conferences within the continent. This, on a practical level has been a mistake in my view (as with the over-emphasised use of banal English hymns is in this counrty-US). This however does not take away from the fact that there are some very beautiful hymns which have the power to move the soul- that do not include any upbeat rythmns or girations. There is a website I know that has samples of The ordinary of the mass in Latin set to some African Rythmns. There is use of drums and other percussions but they are in my humble opinion, used very judiciously. It is sung by Muungano Choir, a choir of reknown in Kenya. They also make good use of choral arrangements. This is a part of a larger collection which also has some other hymns in the vernacular and the last one is a section of the Credo in the vernacular followed by a setting of the Great Amen. This is one of the most moving settings for the Amen I have ever heard- no qualifications. I will try and see if I can find it on-line and make it available. Here is the website. [url="http://www.thepelicans.co.uk/musicback.htm"]Missa Luba[/url] I would also say that although some might take exception with the settings presented in the Missa Luba I believ it to be a wonderful place tostart for the African spiri to find her voice within the Liturgical traditions of the Holy Catholic Church in an authentic way. Expressing the universal without diminishing the personal. pax et bonum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 [quote name='Angelus_Domini' post='1157531' date='Jan 6 2007, 01:39 PM'] Vyumbe vyote vya Mungu wetu na mfalme wet.- All creatures of our God and our King. [/quote] You'll have to excuse my mutilation there. I found it on another site. (I didn't even know where to begin!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelusdomini Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 [quote]Vyumbe vyote vya Mungu wetu na mfalme wet.[/quote] You will have to excuse me here- it is...na mfalme wetu. [quote name='hugheyforlife' post='1157537' date='Jan 6 2007, 02:46 PM'] You'll have to excuse my mutilation there. I found it on another site. (I didn't even know where to begin!) [/quote] Aah, it's no problem at all. You are excused . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 [quote name='Angelus_Domini' post='1157660' date='Jan 6 2007, 05:01 PM'] You will have to excuse me here- it is...na mfalme wetu. [/quote] I was wondering where the 'u' went! (For a while I thought I hadn't remembered the song correctly!) [quote name='Angelus_Domini' post='1157660' date='Jan 6 2007, 05:01 PM'] Aah, it's no problem at all. You are excused . [/quote] thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelusdomini Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 [quote name='hugheyforlife' post='1157661' date='Jan 6 2007, 06:05 PM'] I was wondering where the 'u' went! (For a while I thought I hadn't remembered the song correctly!) [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelusdomini Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Here is a sample of the song I had mentioned previously, Nasadiki-Amen (I believe- Amen). It's in two parts but not complete. My apologies. The first one is from Artist Direct. [url="http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/songs/0,,467794,00.html#more"]Muungano National Choir[/url]- look for [u]"Nasadiki-Amen"[/u] Part II of this isfrom bol.com [url="http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004000574423&Section=MUSIC&lgl=1&plid=PlyR5LdDsEIAAAEPKjdPH_qt&lgl_BOL_OWNER_ID=1&lgl_Section=1"]bol.com-Missa Luba/An African Mass[/url] look for track No. 15 "Nasadiki-Amen". Also feel free to sample the other tracks for anyone who's interested and see if you get my point. The two links are different sites and so the give different samples of the same track like the one above so I'd say listen to them both. I suggest listening from the sample at "Artist Direct" followed by that at bol.com of any particualr song to get a good sense of it. Pax et bonum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share Posted January 7, 2007 When I'm on a computer with Windows I'll definitely give those a listen! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domine ut Videam Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 [quote name='Angelus_Domini' post='1157531' date='Jan 6 2007, 01:39 PM'] Vyumbe vyote vya Mungu wetu na mfalme wet.- All creatures of our God and our King. This is a Swahili Song. I am not sure of its origins though (in the vernacular because off course the translation has equivalence to that song attributed to St. Francis of Assissi.) Now, I'm probably going to assume that you are referring to the unfortunately all too pravalant presentation of African music at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with for too loud and hard a drum beat and not to mention the other percussions that would be involved as well. However, I do believe that some of that expression is legitimate albeit a little unbridled and that is something that needs to be improved upon. As an African- one who speaks Kiswahili as well, I can tell you that some of the most moving hymns I have heard (other than thos in Latin) have been in said language. The translations and references to various idioms in Latin or in the bible are even better than those I have found in the English language. Now, there has been a move especially within the last 15-20 years to remove all those "extra controls" exercised by the universal (read European Church). There has been a move away from a regular exposition of the faithful to the use of Latin and the liturgy and a much heavier emphasis on the use of the vernacular- drums and all. This has come with the authorisation and encouragement of various episcopal conferences within the continent. This, on a practical level has been a mistake in my view (as with the over-emphasised use of banal English hymns is in this counrty-US). This however does not take away from the fact that there are some very beautiful hymns which have the power to move the soul- that do not include any upbeat rythmns or girations. There is a website I know that has samples of The ordinary of the mass in Latin set to some African Rythmns. There is use of drums and other percussions but they are in my humble opinion, used very judiciously. It is sung by Muungano Choir, a choir of reknown in Kenya. They also make good use of choral arrangements. This is a part of a larger collection which also has some other hymns in the vernacular and the last one is a section of the Credo in the vernacular followed by a setting of the Great Amen. This is one of the most moving settings for the Amen I have ever heard- no qualifications. I will try and see if I can find it on-line and make it available. Here is the website. [url="http://www.thepelicans.co.uk/musicback.htm"]Missa Luba[/url] I would also say that although some might take exception with the settings presented in the Missa Luba I believ it to be a wonderful place tostart for the African spiri to find her voice within the Liturgical traditions of the Holy Catholic Church in an authentic way. Expressing the universal without diminishing the personal. pax et bonum [/quote] Sorry, it is nothing against African people or songs really, but rather against an old music teacher who made us sing these wretched songs in gradeschool with no practice and they did not sound good because it was horrible. We never sang english and none of us psoke another launguage.....it was aweful..... yeah....sorry for the rant. But that is why i have a high-dislike of african songs. i am slowly getting over it, but he inbred it into me. Nothing against you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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