Moneybags Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I recently found Traditional Catholic Radio, which plays Traditional sermons and Gregorian Chant. I love listening to it on I-tunes. I strongly recommend it. [color="#FF0000"]STOP linking to trad sites. cmom [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1164318' date='Jan 14 2007, 12:17 PM'] I recently found Traditional Catholic Radio, which plays Traditional sermons and Gregorian Chant. I love listening to it on I-tunes. I strongly recommend it. [/quote] + Sounds fun... are they in communion with Rome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 that is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journeyman Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Is this a good start? 12:00:00 Dr. White and John Vennari - Why I Left the Novus Ordo Vennari is editor of Catholic Family News rather that throwing stones, perhaps it would be appropriate to note that today is the first day in the Christian Unity Octave (aka Week of Prayer for Christian Unity) "May they all be one so that the world may believe it was you who sent me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 I think it might be affiliated or at least sympathetic to the SSPX position. But the music is very holy indeed. I still think it is worth the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Doesn't look like it's in union. It's got programs with Bishop Williamson (SSPX), Dr. White & John Vennari, and Christopher Ferrara all whom I believe are sympathetic to SSPX. It's not a sedevacantist site from what I can tell, but still pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I see that my link was removed. It appears that some people either A) don't like Gregorian Chant or B) Don't like Catholic Tradition. If anyone wants the link, you can just send me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1165740' date='Jan 15 2007, 10:41 AM'] I see that my link was removed. It appears that some people either A) don't like Gregorian Chant or B) Don't like Catholic Tradition. If anyone wants the link, you can just send me a pm. [/quote] Don't think you can charge cmp with any of the above. Trad site links are not allowed to be posted on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 [quote name='thessalonian' post='1165886' date='Jan 15 2007, 02:25 PM'] Don't think you can charge cmp with any of the above. Trad site links are not allowed to be posted on this board. [/quote] Are modernist and liberal links allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 fine...I will do it.. Thes, what is a trad? Wanna give me a 101 on it? I dont like hippies. does that make me a trad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Holy Rosary Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I notice that the question was directed to Thess, but I will throw some examples out. A traditionalist (In the manner that we are using this word ) is someone who: A.) Rejects the Second Vatican Council (SVC) B.) Believes that all who hold to the teachings of the SVC are heretics C.) Believe that the Novus Ordo Mass is invalid D.) Believes (Part 2 to C) Novus Ordo ordinations are invalid E.) -In some cases- states that the Holy Fathers who hold to the documents of the SVC are heretics and so are not valid Popes. Hence the term 'sedevacantist', which are those that hold to the belief that the Chair of Peter is empty. However, I personally feel that the term 'traditionalist' is inaccurate here. It is not tradional to disobey the Holy Father. It is not traditional to question the Supreme Pontiff's authority. I would consider myself traditional. I love Gregorian Chant, I love old devotions, I love Latin, and I love being a faithful Catholic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1165907' date='Jan 15 2007, 02:40 PM'] fine...I will do it.. Thes, what is a trad? Wanna give me a 101 on it? I dont like hippies. does that make me a trad? [/quote] SSPX and Sedevacantists among others. Groups that have been excommunicated. If you go to a Novus Ordo Mass in union with rome even if you don't like hippies, your not a trad, though you might have to work on charity a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I don't believe any of the A - E statements. Wikipedia states it best: "A traditionalist Catholic is a Roman Catholic who believes that there should be a restoration of the liturgical forms, public and private devotions, and the presentation of Catholic teachings that prevailed in the Latin Church before the Second Vatican Council." I don't support sedevacantist or SSPX organizations. I'm a fan of the FSSP, Institute of Christ the King, Canon Regulars of the New Jerusalem, Canon Regulars of St. John Cantius, etc. that work for restoration of the Latin Mass while remaining in union with Rome. That is a traditionalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1165971' date='Jan 15 2007, 04:37 PM'] I don't believe any of the A - E statements. Wikipedia states it best: "A traditionalist Catholic is a Roman Catholic who believes that there should be a restoration of the liturgical forms, public and private devotions, and the presentation of Catholic teachings that prevailed in the Latin Church before the Second Vatican Council." I don't support sedevacantist or SSPX organizations. I'm a fan of the FSSP, Institute of Christ the King, Canon Regulars of the New Jerusalem, Canon Regulars of St. John Cantius, etc. that work for restoration of the Latin Mass while remaining in union with Rome. That is a traditionalist. [/quote] The problem with the wiki definition is that we are not living before Vatican II. So someone who wishes to use just Catholic teachings before Vatican II is in fact not a faithful Catholic. KOTHr is referring to people known as Rad-Trads. StB is referring to something else. I perfer the term "Faithful" as that is applicable in ANY age of the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Im so confused.. How is someone even able to call themselves catholic when they are not united with the Pope and the councils? Basically the SSPX are just a new form of protestants. As a former protestant who has strong patristic ties I can say that they claim to be found in the past, but dont respect the authority of the current pope. interesting. Thes, (and others) What parts of vat 2 offend the SSPX (using as a general term cause i dont like the trad term) What do they have against the N.O. mass? Isnt the idea that the seat of peter is empty a non-catholic belief? Hell cannot prevail. Why are you working to restore the latin mass? I like a more traditional mass with bells and smells and icons, but I honestly, as a former pastor, would have huge issues if I could not understand what was being said in mass. Thes, any personal reason you think I need more charity? pm if u want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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