Justified Saint Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1293579' date='Jun 12 2007, 08:30 AM']it examines a very specific issue - love. I would like to have books with a more broad subject.[/quote] Love a specific issue? Rather, it seems very fundamental, basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Innocent' post='1293583' date='Jun 12 2007, 09:39 AM']I've been looking through this online.. Some links: [url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/SPIRIT/GRANADA.HTM"][color="#FF0000"]1 [/color][/url] [url="http://www.catholictreasury.info/Guide/Default.htmhttp://www.catholictreasury.info/Guide/Default.htm"] [color="#8B0000"] 2[/color][/url] [url="http://catholictradition.org/Classics/sinners-guide.htm"][color="#FF00FF"] 3 [/color][/url] [url="http://www.franciscan-sfo.org/ap/SG/GRANADA.htm"][color="#2E8B57"]4[/color] [/url][/quote] Thanks for the links. I'll take a look. I've heard it was pretty good, but I've never had a chance to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Justified Saint' post='1293700' date='Jun 12 2007, 11:49 AM']Love a specific issue? Rather, it seems very fundamental, basic.[/quote] That was my thinking in recommending the text. While being introduced to the various "compartments" of the Catholic world-view is good, it is important to get at something of the very essence of Catholicism which can be summed up in that phrase, "God is Love". IMHO anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 I've been looking for suggestions on other forums. Someone sent the following message. What do you think about each item on it? [quote]A) The Devil's Final Battle. Fr. Paul Kramer. B) I cannot recommend Cranmer's Godly Order highly enough. Mr. Michael Davies. C) You need a good book on Vatican II. I've heard The Rhine Flows Into The Tiber recommended by many, many people, though I haven't read it for myself. Ralph Wiltgen. D) The Great Facade. Chris Ferrara. E) Iota Unum -an excellent, rather large study on the changes in the Catholic Church in the 20th century, from a traditional perspective. It's daunting at first, but not a hard read. Romano Amerio. F) Marcel Lefebvre, the biography by Bp. Tissier de Mallerais. This is also an excellent book, and provides an essential overview of the bishop's life, and the struggle for Tradition. Even if you don't attend the SSPX Mass. (I know many who attend the Indult and have told me that this is a book that you shouldn't miss!)[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 "The Rhine Flows..." is pretty cool but I haven't read any of the others. They strike me as perhaps a bit too far in the rad trad direction based on that I'm somewhat acquainted with either the title or the author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1293964' date='Jun 12 2007, 05:35 PM']That was my thinking in recommending the text. While being introduced to the various "compartments" of the Catholic world-view is good, it is important to get at something of the very essence of Catholicism which can be summed up in that phrase, "God is Love". IMHO anyway.[/quote] Three cheers for love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 Any other opinions on these. I've read none of them. [quote]A) The Devil's Final Battle. Fr. Paul Kramer. B) I cannot recommend Cranmer's Godly Order highly enough. Mr. Michael Davies. C) You need a good book on Vatican II. I've heard The Rhine Flows Into The Tiber recommended by many, many people, though I haven't read it for myself. Ralph Wiltgen. D) The Great Facade. Chris Ferrara. E) Iota Unum -an excellent, rather large study on the changes in the Catholic Church in the 20th century, from a traditional perspective. It's daunting at first, but not a hard read. Romano Amerio. F) Marcel Lefebvre, the biography by Bp. Tissier de Mallerais. This is also an excellent book, and provides an essential overview of the bishop's life, and the struggle for Tradition. Even if you don't attend the SSPX Mass. (I know many who attend the Indult and have told me that this is a book that you shouldn't miss!)[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justified Saint Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 (edited) I am not familar with those books mentioned in your last post. Yet, how about Thomas Howard's [i]On Being Catholic[/i]? I think that would be a wonderful read for a convert as it conveys deep theological truths in a very poetic and engaging style. Edited June 14, 2007 by Justified Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1294060' date='Jun 12 2007, 08:57 PM']I've been looking for suggestions on other forums. Someone sent the following message. What do you think about each item on it?[/quote] Can't imagine many people here should be too comfortable with a number of these texts, but I'd recommend 'em. Haven't read the one by Chris Ferrara and am not a big fan of his work, but I like the others for sure. but Also haven't read the last one on Lefebvre, but believe it would be okay if its just a biography. If its overly emphasizing the arguments of the sspx I wouldn't suggest it, not just because I disagree with their position on a number of issues, but mainly because I find some of their arguments hard to follow myself and certainly wouldn't expose a convert to it right away which could simply lead to confusing the person. Edited June 15, 2007 by goldenchild17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1295801' date='Jun 15 2007, 02:25 AM']Can't imagine many people here should be too comfortable with a number of these texts, but I'd recommend 'em. Haven't read the one by Chris Ferrara and am not a big fan of his work, but I like the others for sure. but Also haven't read the last one on Lefebvre, but believe it would be okay if its just a biography. If its overly emphasizing the arguments of the sspx I wouldn't suggest it, not just because I disagree with their position on a number of issues, but mainly because I find some of their arguments hard to follow myself and certainly wouldn't expose a convert to it right away which could simply lead to confusing the person.[/quote] Good point. I said that "The Rhine Flows Into The Tiber" is a pretty cool book, which is true, but hardly something that would seem appropriate for introducing a new convert to the Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1291736' date='Jun 10 2007, 03:03 AM']That's one of the saddest things I've read in a long, long time...[/quote] Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneybags Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 I'm going to try and read [u]The Rhine Flows Into The Tiber[/u]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1295946' date='Jun 15 2007, 10:29 AM']Why is that?[/quote] I had the same question when I read goldenchild's post. It was in response to you saying this: [i]"lets have a challenge. I will put a team of converts together, you put a team of trads together. I would put the converts against the trads any day. We had to fight to get were we are. We are the immagrants in the poor country that came to the land of milk and honey. We appreciate it more."[/i] I don't see anything "sad" about this statement, but I do disagree with its assumptions considering that most of the "trads" that I have known on a personal level (I myself might even qualify) have been converts to the faith. In my experience it is most often an acute appreciation of the faith (misguided or not being beside the point) which inspires people, converts or otherwise, towards traditionalism. Many of the more prolific and popular traditionalists (including the so-called "radtrads") are converts to the faith; some were even protestant pastors at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 [quote name='St. Benedict' post='1293383' date='Jun 11 2007, 11:20 PM']Let's not argue about whether the SSPX are in schism are not I have been asked to remove Deus Caritas Est from the list because it is not a true apologetic work. What do you think?[/quote] + Bah! Give thems something that's not just against something, but for something. Also, Surprised by Truth: [url="http://www.surprisedbytruth.com/"]http://www.surprisedbytruth.com/[/url] Some Chesterton Fides et Ratio: JPII Splendour Veritatis: JPII John Henry Cardinal Newman: On the Development of Doctrine Jeff Cavins: [url="http://www.marianland.com/stjosephcom104.html"]http://www.marianland.com/stjosephcom104.html[/url] I can't believe you're not going to give them JPIIs Catechism -that's ridiculous and a huge disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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