Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 14 years ago today (until the day changes to August 5th in 15 minutes) I received God's grace in baptism, and original sin mas remitted from my soul. I just thought I'd let everyone know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Happy birthday. Fourteen years ago today I think I was watching cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) Congratulations. "In Baptism, Tyler died with Christ..." If you can find where that quote would be from, I'll buy you a taco. Edited August 5, 2007 by brendan1104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) [quote name='brendan1104' post='1350045' date='Aug 4 2007, 11:47 PM']Congratulations. "In Baptism, Tyler died with Christ..." If you can find where that quote would be from, I'll buy you a taco.[/quote] Romans 6:3-4 3 Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death? 4 For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life. Edited August 5, 2007 by StThomasMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote name='brendan1104' post='1350045' date='Aug 5 2007, 12:47 AM']Congratulations. "In Baptism, Tyler died with Christ..." If you can find where that quote would be from, I'll buy you a taco.[/quote] It's from the Rite for Funerals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigid Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote name='aalpha1989' post='1350059' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:05 AM']It's from the Rite for Funerals...[/quote] that's what I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) [quote name='aalpha1989' post='1350059' date='Aug 5 2007, 12:05 AM']It's from the Rite for Funerals...[/quote] I looked it up again on google. Yes it is from the Rite of Christian Burial for the Ordinary Form, but the original source of the quote is Romans 6:3-4 (I had known that it was from one of St. Paul's epistles before I looked it up the quote in the Douay-Rheims but wasn't sure what book, chapter and verse it was from) Edited August 5, 2007 by StThomasMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigid Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1350071' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:31 AM']Are you sure?[/quote] I've altar served at a lot of funerals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1350071' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:31 AM']I looked it up again on google. Yes it is from the Rite of Christian Burial for the Ordinary Form, but the original source of the quote is Romans 6:4 and Colossians 2:12 (I had known that it was from one of St. Paul's epistles before I looked it up the quote in the Douay-Rheims but wasn't sure what book, chapter and verse it was from)[/quote] regardless, the exact quote is from the Rite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 True, but Brendan usually hears the Extraordinary Form and therefore was probably referring to the scripture quote not only for that reason but also because it's more relevant and less grim than a quote from the funeral rite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 just a side note, funeral rite aren't grim at all. really, the whole purpose of the funeral liturgy is as a reminder that we have ALREADY died in baptism with Christ, this is just the physical reality showing us what spiritually has already occurred. thats why the liturgical color for funeral masses is white - its the mass of the resurrection. really, its a GOOD thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) But then again the Extraordinary Form's funeral rite is incredibly grim with black as the liturgical color, no eulogy telling how great the person, and chants whose melodies sound very sad. Edited August 5, 2007 by StThomasMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 (edited) um, ordinary form isn't supposed to have eulogies, so thats not quite fair. and i still don't think that the extraordinary form's liturgy is [i]supposed[/i] to be grim, since the [i]theology[/i] certainly hasn't changed. there is nothing inherently grim in contemplating death, because as Christians we should know and understand that death is not an end, but merely a change, to new life with God in heaven. really, one of the coolest things about the funeral rite is its symbolic completion of the sacraments of Christian initiation. what are we baptized into, but the communion of saints? 14 years ago, your parents broke the power of death that satan held over you! Edited August 5, 2007 by kateri05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 5, 2007 Author Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote name='kateri05' post='1350090' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:03 AM']um, ordinary form isn't supposed to have eulogies, so thats not quite fair.[/quote] Oh I didn't know that... all the Forma Ordinaria funerals I've been to had eulogies. [quote name='kateri05' post='1350090' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:03 AM']and i still don't think that the extraordinary form's liturgy is [i]supposed[/i] to be grim, since the [i]theology[/i] certainly hasn't changed.[/quote] It's true that that the theology has not changed, but it is also hard to deny that the Forma Extraordinaria was supposed to be sad and mournful. [quote name='kateri05' post='1350090' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:03 AM']there is nothing inherently grim in contemplating death, because as Christians we should know and understand that death is not an end, but merely a change, to new life with God in heaven.[/quote] Well, since death is a result of the Fall, it is an evil and is sad (if the Fall would not have occurred Adam and all his descendents would have been assumed into heaven after a certain period on earth). And you must admit it's scary and grim not knowing if you will die in a state of grace or in a state of mortal sin and even if you do die in a state of grace knowing that you may have to suffer fires of purgatory. [quote name='kateri05' post='1350090' date='Aug 5 2007, 01:03 AM']14 years ago, your parents broke the power of death that satan held over you! [/quote] Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 [quote]sad and mournful.[/quote] are NOT the same as grim. sorrow and grim are definitely two different things in my book. [quote]And you must admit it's scary and grim not knowing if you will die in a state of grace or in a state of mortal sin and even if you do die in a state of grace knowing that you may have to suffer fires of purgatory.[/quote] while i do admit that i'm looking forward to purgatory as much as the next person, please do remember that Christians are supposed to be people of hope. the fruits of the Spirit are peace and joy. so buck up! and get back to celebrating your birthday in Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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