The People Don't Want The Latin Mass

[Pio Nono]

JMJ
12/28 - Feast of the Holy Innocents
[quote name='brendan1104' post='1439122' date='Dec 28 2007, 12:10 PM']I heard Chicago pizza was the worst?

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False. Except for the "off-topic" label. That's true.

[let_go_let_God]

I've been able to go to a Latin Mass. I am not sure as to which it was, (Trid or Novus) it was a great experience for me. Currently I think that that church (St. Ben's in Duluth) is the only one in the area and maybe the only one in the Diocese offering any mass in Latin. I must say, although it's only offered once a month for the time being I look forward to going again once the semester starts again.

God bless-
LGLG

[HotRod]

I love the Latin Mass! I've been 3 times now, and I feel like I've been rediscovering a part of the Church I never knew existed. Its a welcome change from the modernist folk-mass at our nearest parish. I dont like labels, but i suppose would call me and my wife "trad's" because her and my daughters wear veils and we dont eat meat on friday's. And now we go to Latin Mass I just consider myself Catholic. I still love the Pope, and I find beauty in the New mass when its done right. So I'm holding off on my SSPX application for now (kidding!)

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1438760' date='Dec 27 2007, 12:35 AM']Just a few quick points - First (While I'm not saying you make this claim), it is a common misconception that Latin is confined to the Tridentine Liturgy. Latin can and is used in in the "Novus Ordo" liturgy, and in fact was originally intented to have the pride of place in the liturgy.[/quote]

Indeed -- out of all forms of the mass I've ever attended -- and the I've attended both the Tridentine and Novus Ordo (in many different languages) -- and in my opinion the Novus Ordo said or sung in Latin is probably my favorite. It has the reverence of the Tridentine but with some of the congregational participantion they had aimed to achieve with the Novus Ordo.

It's a shame that people took what could have been (and in many respects still is or can be) so beautiful in the Novus Ordo and distorted and ran away with it so radically. It left so many mainstream Catholics with something bland and banalized and for many traditionalist Catholics (though not all -- mostly just the radical ones) something to love to hate.

Edited December 29, 2007 by Ash Wednesday

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='HotRod' post='1439286' date='Dec 28 2007, 05:13 PM']I love the Latin Mass! I've been 3 times now, and I feel like I've been rediscovering a part of the Church I never knew existed. Its a welcome change from the modernist folk-mass at our nearest parish. I dont like labels, but i suppose would call me and my wife "trad's" because her and my daughters wear veils and we dont eat meat on friday's. And now we go to Latin Mass I just consider myself Catholic. I still love the Pope, and I find beauty in the New mass when its done right. So I'm holding off on my SSPX application for now (kidding!)[/quote]
Great post. So good to hear the ladies in your family are carrying that tradition!

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1439335' date='Dec 28 2007, 08:03 PM']Indeed -- out of all forms of the mass I've ever attended -- and the I've attended both the Tridentine and Novus Ordo (in many different languages) -- and in my opinion the Novus Ordo said or sung in Latin is probably my favorite. It has the reverence of the Tridentine but with some of the congregational participantion they had aimed to achieve with the Novus Ordo.

It's a shame that people took what could have been (and in many respects still is or can be) so beautiful in the Novus Ordo and distorted and ran away with it so radically. It left so many mainstream Catholics with something bland and banalized and for many traditionalist Catholics (though not all -- mostly just the radical ones) something to love to hate. [/quote]

Yeah, I love the NO in Latin. The only latin mass I've been to. It's quite beautiful though. I'd like it like that more often.

[Laudate_Dominum]

Yeah, I've always despised the “nostalgic old fogies” stereotype. Besides the fact that it is patently false, and that you'd probably find more nostalgic old fogies at a Call To Action convention, it just seems like a stupid reason to ignore traditional Catholics. Let's pretend that the stereotype is true and that the vast majority of people who desire the traditional Mass are nostalgic old folks who have been hurt by the post-VII revolution. Ok, I guess since they are just old and stupid they are irrelevant and have no right to be heard or their pastoral needs met. This is why it is so ironic. The liberal establishment prides itself on being ultra pastoral and inclusive but apparently the one exception is if you happen to be an old person who loves tradition. In this case you are not a valid member of the flock deserving of pastoral consideration but are simply the butt of a joke. In case some haven’t noticed, the heterodox and so-called “liberal” ideology of recent decades is a hypocritical lie (the father of lies and hypocrisy is Satan). I have personally encountered the “nostalgic old fogies” line from a Bishop in response to interest voiced with regards to traditional liturgy. I found this to be amusing in this case since I’m in my twenties, but it is really quite disturbing. But hey, if my Bishop says I'm just a nostalic old fogey and therefore I ought to just shut up and deal with heterodoxy, who am I to disagree? It must be true!

There is a parish not too far from here that I have visited three times. The first time there were rounds of applause during Mass for a handful of liberal Protestant guests who were visiting (from a denomination that embraces homosexual activity) while on another occasion a friend of mine was violently expelled from the church because he had the audacity to kneel to receive Holy Communion. But wait! What about another time when there were Anglicans present who knelt to receive the blessing of the pastor? They were not expelled from the church for kneeling to receive a blessing and yet a Catholic was expelled for innocently kneeling to receive Christ in the Blessed Sacrament? If I am ever forced to visit this parish again I might do well to pretend I am Protestant, or maybe an active homosexual; maybe this will toggle the old pastoral switch for these priests. All are welcome my butt.