blovedwolfofgod Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [url="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324195,00.html"]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324195,00.html[/url] This is a pretty amazing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) It is compelling when you think about it. I mean, that God can forgive someone that kills 20,000 people, or even more. It's hard to read an article about someone named "General Butt Naked" with a straight face, though. And imagining someone like Tom Brokaw saying "Tonight's top story on NBC Nightly News. A warlord confesses and repents after killing 20,000 people in the throes of Liberia's civil war. This is the true story of General Butt Naked, leader of the Butt Naked Battalion." Edited January 21, 2008 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 That story is so sad. I hope that Mary takes that country in her arms and helps it to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 God's grace has no limits. I hope this man persists in his new personal mission to bring some justice to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) So according to the church this man would make it into Heaven, yet say someone who had commited a mortal sin before they died such as masturbation and didnt repent to a priest would go to hell forever ? That makes no sence in my opinon but then again im just a 26 year old idiot, so its probally not supposed to. At any rate thank God that he loves us and forgives us for our sins. Edited January 21, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1448971' date='Jan 21 2008, 08:06 PM']So according to the church this man would make it into Heaven, yet say someone who had commited a mortal sin before they died such as masturbation and didnt repent to a priest would go to hell forever ? That makes no sence in my opinon but then again im just a 26 year old idiot, so its probally not supposed to. At any rate thank God that he loves us and forgives us for our sins.[/quote] This is not what we believe as a Catholics. To commit a mortal sin you have to choose to do it of your own free will and in the full knowledge that it will separate you from God. If you were truly sorry for it afterwards, but died before you got the chance to see a priest, you would be forgiven. God has given us the gift of Confession to help us and heal us, not to seal us off from Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1448978' date='Jan 21 2008, 03:16 PM']This is not what we believe as a Catholics. To commit a mortal sin you have to choose to do it of your own free will and in the full knowledge that it will separate you from God. If you were truly sorry for it afterwards, but died before you got the chance to see a priest, you would be forgiven. God has given us the gift of Confession to help us and heal us, not to seal us off from Him.[/quote] ok well this makes me feel a little bit better. why is it that some people never come to the " full knowledge" that they are commting a mortal sin , y others do ?? i guess thats not a question you can probally answer but it seems like protestants and other church's have it much easier since they dont really believe in mortal sin and can just tell God " hey im sorry, i love you" now as a catholic, can i do that ?? or am i required to go to a priest and confess my sins ?? Edited January 21, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) + Silly double post. Edited January 21, 2008 by Veritas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1448980' date='Jan 21 2008, 02:25 PM']ok well this makes me feel a little bit better. why is it that some people never come to the " full knowledge" that they are commting a mortal sin , y others do ?? i guess thats not a question you can probally answer but it seems like protestants and other church's have it much easier since they dont really believe in mortal sin and can just tell God " hey im sorry, i love you" now as a catholic, can i do that ?? or am i required to go to a priest and confess my sins ??[/quote] + Actually, as a convert, I must say Catholics have it much easier! The sacramental grace one receives in Confession is huge! Yes, as a Catholic you're "required" but it's not so much an obligation, but a HUGE opportunity to grow in grace, strength, and virtue. Great questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Veritas' post='1449002' date='Jan 21 2008, 04:49 PM'][snip] Yes, as a Catholic you're "required" but it's not so much an obligation, but a HUGE opportunity to grow in grace, strength, and virtue. Great questions![/quote] Couldn't of said it better myself. The 'obligation' is for one's own benefit. What do you think a priest does? Writes down everyones 'sins', makes a list, checks it twice and reports back to Santa Claus? The benefit is entirely for the one who receives the grace, and their own loss if refused. Edited January 21, 2008 by Didacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 If you'd like it "easier" theres plenty of storefront and mega churches that are very easy If you'd like truth, theres the one true Apostolic Church. Sacramental Confession is required for mortal sins. As others have said, the grace recieved is immeasurable Christ never said it would be "easy" Thus he has given us the means to attain the unattainable: The Sacraments administered through his one Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blovedwolfofgod Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 And some people never come to full knowledge of a mortal sin because they may not know what a mortal sin is, or realize that its wrong. It has to be a grave matter, and one that the person knows is a grave matter. Or they could have a wounded conscience, or one that hasnt fully formed. You can do something so much that it wounds your conscience to the point where you may not feel bad, or care, and so you must use the knowledge you acquire about it as a form of conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycin Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [quote name='Veritas' post='1449002' date='Jan 21 2008, 03:49 PM']+ Actually, as a convert, I must say Catholics have it much easier! The sacramental grace one receives in Confession is huge! Yes, as a Catholic you're "required" but it's not so much an obligation, but a HUGE opportunity to grow in grace, strength, and virtue. Great questions![/quote] I completely agree! Sacraments are amazing GIFTS from God to us! As a convert myself (or actually in the process of converting) I can truly say that Catholics have it better, even if not necessarily "easier." As a protestant, there were times that I begged forgiveness of the same sins over and over and over again. Why? Because even though I knew God heard me, there was still a part of me that couldn't find peace. The priest is there to absolve us of our sins so that we can be at peace, knowing for certain that God has heard our sins, forgiven them, and cast them from east to west... or in other words, forgotten them. How amazing that even when we have trouble forgiving ourselves and forgetting our sins, we can find comfort in knowing that God, in his perfect love and mercy, forgets our sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmith818 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1448978' date='Jan 21 2008, 03:16 PM']This is not what we believe as a Catholics. To commit a mortal sin you have to choose to do it of your own free will and in the full knowledge that it will separate you from God. [b]If you were truly sorry for it afterwards, but died before you got the chance to see a priest, you would be forgiven.[/b] God has given us the gift of Confession to help us and heal us, not to seal us off from Him.[/quote] WHOA! This was posted above and everyone breezed by it. This is NOT how I understand mortal sin and death. Unless you meant that it "if your intention is to get to Confession but you died on the way there," unreconciled mortal sin will get you burned. Just recognizing you screwed up and not making haste to get to Confession doesn't cut it in my Catechism. And I agree that as a Catholic, the word "culpability" is my least favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hehehe. Good post, esmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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