"barak Obama Is A Natural For The Catholic Vote"

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='blovedwolfofgod' post='1462069' date='Feb 14 2008, 07:30 AM']i think catholics flip flop so much due to one criteria. if you were baptised catholic, you call yourself catholic unless you converted to a protestant, anti-catholic sect. with 30% church attendance in the US, that means 70% dont really care. Of the other 30%, some go to church and are totally different in church than they are everywhere else. or they hate the pope, the magisterium, and being told whats right and wrong but go to church out of a sense of duty. then there are the people that actually look at candidates and look the Teachings, then vote third party! [/quote]

i agree - i think it would be great if the cultural Catholics you are refering to all had hazard signs above their heads with the words "I don't rep pope" - or, when polls are taken to determine how much Catholics flip-flop in national elections, they could separate out the cultural Catholics from the practicing Catholics.

[Dismas]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1462002' date='Feb 14 2008, 12:36 AM']bill clinton once said "democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line"

fortunately for me, i'm neither of those and can claim immunity from the mindlessness. (while acknowleding the generalization he made is not applicable to all dem and repubs, but as a gneeralization is generally true)[/quote]

Ugh!

First, what does Slick Willy know about love? Seriously, I know he's got lust and exploitation down, but love?

Second, Republicans falling in line is just too funny. Gathering Republicans is like herding cats.

[kamiller42]

Obama is not that much of a mystery. Read [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama"]here[/url] for a history of his positions.


[quote]Abortion and contraception

In his write-in response to a 1998 survey, Obama stated his abortion position as: "Abortions should be legally available in accordance with Roe v. Wade."[71]

While serving in the Illinois Senate, Obama had a 100 percent rating from the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council[72] due to his consistent voting in favor of legalized abortion, family planning services, and having female contraceptives covered by health insurance.[73] Since his election to the United States Senate Obama has maintained a 100 percent rating from Planned Parenthood (as of 2007) and NARAL (as of 2005).[74] [b]While serving in the Illinois State Senate, Obama opposed the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which requires medical care for aborted fetuses that survive[/b]. He argued that the legislation's wording defined the fetus as a child — a measure he said would "essentially bar abortions."[75][/quote]

Absolutely horrible. When I read his positions, I think he is more liberal than Hillary. He would be very dangerous in the presidential office.

You can view each candidate's position on life issues with [url="http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf"]this National Right to Life flier[/url]. McCain is pretty pro-life except for his embryonic stem research support. Hopefully we can convince to change his stance or he at least remains neutral.

[Socrates]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1462002' date='Feb 14 2008, 01:36 AM']bill clinton once said "democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line"

fortunately for me, i'm neither of those and can claim immunity from the mindlessness. (while acknowleding the generalization he made is not applicable to all dem and repubs, but as a gneeralization is generally true)[/quote]
Yeah, ain't it wonderful how how dairygirl is just so much smarter than the rest of us ignernt nincompoops!

[Socrates]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1464107' date='Feb 16 2008, 10:20 AM']Second, Republicans falling in line is just too funny. Gathering Republicans is like herding cats.[/quote]
LOL - very true!

But of course, all Republicans or conservatives are just brainwashed robots who march in lock step and wait for orders from Central Headquarters. Obviously, if we weren't, we'd think for ourselves and thus believe exactly the same as every liberal Dem in the country!

[quote name='kamiller42' post='1464517' date='Feb 16 2008, 09:30 PM']Obama is not that much of a mystery. Read [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama"]here[/url] for a history of his positions.
Absolutely horrible. When I read his positions, I think he is more liberal than Hillary. He would be very dangerous in the presidential office.

You can view each candidate's position on life issues with [url="http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf"]this National Right to Life flier[/url]. McCain is pretty pro-life except for his embryonic stem research support. Hopefully we can convince to change his stance or he at least remains neutral.[/quote]
There's nothing new or original about Obama's politics. He's just a socialist left-liberal. (In fact, one group has ranked him the most liberal member of the Senate.)

It's sad how many people seem taken by his rhetoric and basically make him to be whatever they want him to be.
But hey, he's for "change" and "hope"! Who can be against that?

As comedian Marvin Webster remarked about him, "My uncle always told me to beware of a man who's always a good talker, but never has anything to say." (or something along those lines)

[jckinsman]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1464540' date='Feb 16 2008, 11:45 PM']LOL - very true!

But of course, all Republicans or conservatives are just brainwashed robots who march in lock step and wait for orders from Central Headquarters. Obviously, if we weren't, we'd think for ourselves and thus believe exactly the same as every liberal Dem in the country!
There's nothing new or original about Obama's politics. He's just a socialist left-liberal. (In fact, one group has ranked him the most liberal member of the Senate.)

It's sad how many people seem taken by his rhetoric and basically make him to be whatever they want him to be.
But hey, he's for "change" and "hope"! Who can be against that?

As comedian Marvin Webster remarked about him, "My uncle always told me to beware of a man who's always a good talker, but never has anything to say." (or something along those lines)[/quote]
So You could say that the Conservative Republicans are like Catholics serving under the Holy Father and Liberal Democrats are like protestants,if they don't like what's being said they just make up there own truth or find a new church that supports them....or they just run for President!! JC

[ardillacid]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1462002' date='Feb 14 2008, 12:36 AM']bill clinton once said "democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line"

fortunately for me, i'm neither of those and can claim immunity from the mindlessness. (while acknowleding the generalization he made is not applicable to all dem and repubs, but as a gneeralization is generally true)[/quote]
Another pop moderate?


lol

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1465605' date='Feb 19 2008, 03:05 AM']So You could say that the Conservative Republicans are like Catholics serving under the Holy Father and Liberal Democrats are like protestants,if they don't like what's being said they just make up there own truth or find a new church that supports them....or they just run for President!! JC[/quote]

ooh - i like that! nice!

[Selah]

[quote name='Dismas' post='1461672' date='Feb 13 2008, 10:47 PM'][sarcasm]Barak Obama is for whatever you think is good, and against anything you think is bad.

Barak Obama is for changing the change of changing change in these times of change!

Hope in the change of change!

Changechangechangechangechangechange![/quote]

lol, I know what you mean. So much time talking about CHANGE and no time talking about what that change will look like.

[Slappo]

[quote name='Selah' post='1469419' date='Feb 26 2008, 04:34 PM']lol, I know what you mean. So much time talking about CHANGE and no time talking about what that change will look like. [/quote]


Well of course he doesn't talk about change will look like! The important thing is that it won't look like right now right? Because thats CHANGE!!!

Good thing we don't hold fast to tradition and all that stuff

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='Slappo' post='1469436' date='Feb 26 2008, 05:58 PM']Well of course he doesn't talk about change will look like! The important thing is that it won't look like right now right? Because thats CHANGE!!![/quote]

Right, and once we have changed things, we'll have to change the changes as well! Got it!

[Sammy Blaze]

Oh the humanity of it ALL...

[Alycin]

[quote name='jckinsman' post='1465605' date='Feb 19 2008, 04:05 AM']So You could say that the Conservative Republicans are like Catholics serving under the Holy Father and Liberal Democrats are like protestants,if they don't like what's being said they just make up there own truth or find a new church that supports them....or they just run for President!! JC[/quote]


Uhhhhmmm... comparing the conservative republican beliefs to the holy father? that's almost as bad as that blog about barack being a messiah.

*gags*

[piano_freak184]

isn't there a law that will take place if Obama okays it that has something do with letting kids age eleven or older be able to do WHATEVER they want and their parents can't stop them? The only things they can't do are drink and drive. There already is a very similiar law in Germany, ironically the same place where there is the most drug use, murders, whatever you can think of that would happen if kids did not have reasonable rules to follow. And about the abortion ordeal with Obama, watch this, I thought it should've been used ALOT more for the Republican commercials this past election:


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CaBR3z85c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CaBR3z85c[/url]

I am not sure if this will come up on here okay, and if not, go on youtube and type in "Imagine Spot 1, and click on the one that comes up black with a little purple circle in the middle. I saw this video for the first time this morning and thought it was great.