Who Can Faithful Catholics Actually Vote For?

[rkwright]

If not voting for McCain = Hillary or Obama win then WHY...

People can say McCain is similar to the dems, but seriously, how can anyone conceive McCain as being worse than the dems?

Edited February 16, 2008 by rkwright

[Justin86]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1464010' date='Feb 16 2008, 03:42 PM']If not voting for McCain = Hillary or Obama win then WHY...

People can say McCain is similar to the dems, but seriously, how can anyone conceive McCain as being worse than the dems?[/quote]
In regards to the pro-life issue he's not. On everything else it gets iffy.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1464010' date='Feb 16 2008, 01:42 AM']If not voting for McCain = Hillary or Obama win then WHY...

People can say McCain is similar to the dems, but seriously, how can anyone conceive McCain as being worse than the dems?[/quote]
He's the same as the Dems.

[rkwright]

thats just ignorance. On the life issues he is clearly opposite.
[url="http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf"]http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf[/url]

Its that simple.

[Justin86]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1464032' date='Feb 16 2008, 04:04 PM']thats just ignorance. On the life issues he is clearly opposite.
[url="http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf"]http://www.nrlc.org/Election2008/allcandidatescomparison.pdf[/url]

Its that simple.[/quote]
That would be why even you're chart admits he voted for embryonic stem cell research, and I've already demonstrated why he's [i]not[/i] trustworthy on Roe. Hardly the pillar of the opposite you hold him up to be.

[rkwright]

[quote name='Justin86' post='1464033' date='Feb 16 2008, 01:13 AM']That would be why even you're chart admits he voted for embryonic stem cell research, and I've already demonstrated why he's [i]not[/i] trustworthy on Roe. Hardly the pillar of the opposite you hold him up to be.[/quote]

I didn't say he was perfect. But better than the dems for sure. With dems having a shot at winning this, having one of them in office would be disastrous for life in this nation.

He's got his problems, but I'll take those ANY day over people who co-sponsor bills called the freedom of choice act.

[Justin86]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1464036' date='Feb 16 2008, 04:18 PM']I didn't say he was perfect. But better than the dems for sure. With dems having a shot at winning this, having one of them in office would be disastrous for life in this nation.[/quote]
I didn't challenge you on the pro-life issue, or were you talking to Lounge Daddy?

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='qfnol31' post='1463941' date='Feb 16 2008, 12:52 AM']Can you give proof for McCain and every one of these accusations (except the last one)?[/quote]
Yes, I can.

John McCain:

[b]* is endorsed by a pro-choice group[/b]
[url="http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200802/CUL20080206a.html"]'Republicans for Choice' Endorses McCain
CNSNews.com
February 06, 2008[/url]

[b]* supports banning pro-life groups from promoting a pro-life candidate (thus, support restriction of the very free speech rights guaranteed by the US Constitution)[/b]
[url="http://www.lifenews.com/state707.html"]Wisconsin Pro-Life Group Takes [John McCain's] Campaign Ad Ban Lawsuit to Supreme Court
LifeNews.com
September 9, 2004[/url]

[b]* has stated that he would not support overturning roe v wade[/b]
[url="http://www.nrlc.org/news/1999/NRL999/mccain.html"]McCain Makes Conflicting Statements on Abortion
NRLC Federal Legislative Office
September 13, 1999[/url]

[b]* has actively worked to prevent pro-life legislation from coming to a vote while in the senate[/b]
[url="http://www.lifenews.com/nat3612.html"]Pro-Life Senator Rick Santorum Says John McCain Not Passionately Pro-Life
LifeNews.com
January 14, 2008[/url]

[b]* supports human fetal experimentation[/b]
Common knowledge.



John McCain even sought to be John Kerry's running mate. Kerry's wife is a current financial contributer to McCain. So is the socialist financier of the Democrat party, George Sorros.
All three candidates, Obama, Clinton, and McCain, are the same. They are funded by many of the same people, and they walk very much the same line. They only tow (what's left of) their respective party line enough to not be more obviously identical than they are--as in the "up" or "down" vote on President Bush's nominees that were along party lines.

Edited February 16, 2008 by Lounge Daddy

[Lounge Daddy]

Oh, phooey. I just noticed that I neglected to link up the junk on my post up there.

[url="http://www.rootforamerica.com/"]* Wayne Allyn Root's campaign website.[/url]

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allyn_Root"]* Wikipedia article about Wayne Root. [/url]
[url="http://www.lp.org/"]
* Libertarian Party website.[/url]

Who else is voting 3rd party?

[dairygirl4u2c]

if you actually read those "pro choice for mccain" stuff, you'd see that they like him because he's not militant on the issue. that doesn't mean he's prochioce. and, most other prochioce republican groups don't like him.. because they only sponser those who are prochoice.

also to say he worked to prevent the lesitlation is misleading... he just wasn't passionate.
so the bottomline... he's not militant on reversing roe which is realistic... he's for restrictions on abortion... he'd prob elect a conservative justice (not being miltant doesn't mean he wouldn't.. it just means he's being realistic). he's made some qestionable comments on roe, which could have been taken out of context,,,, but were said long ago, and such.
he's obviously very prolife.

the same accusations that are being lobbed to mccain could be to romney. and they were to a degree. but, the media wasn't labeling him a liberal, so people would have went with it, and there wouldn't have been this discussion.
people.... stop being media puppets.
mccain is very prolife even if not perfect.
admit that to be consistent... if you're one who says it's sinful etc not to vote for a republic usually.... that you have to vote for mccain on pain of losing your soul...
just admit you're wrong. it's not that big of a deal. life goes on.

Edited February 16, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[Justin86]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1464052' date='Feb 16 2008, 04:57 PM']he's obviously very prolife.[/quote]
Voting for embryonic stem cell research is "very prolife"?

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Justin86' post='1464062' date='Feb 16 2008, 03:11 AM']Voting for embryonic stem cell research is "very prolife"? [/quote]

Embryonic stem cells harvested from aborted babies!