The "church" Of Oprah

[dominicansoul]

[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA[/url]

Oprah's dangerous influence isn't just in politics...

Just thought I would share this with all of you...

[LouisvilleFan]

At about 2:50, there's a lady named Kelly who comes on to ask a question about reconciling New Age spirituality with Christianity and Oprah's answer is very revealing. She goes into her past being raised in a Baptist church and describes how God's jealousy doesn't jive with his omnipresence and omniscient. Now, the interesting thing is she misses the point because she says "God is jealous of me?" I just want to reply, "No, God is jealous [i]for[/i] you!" And precisely because of what Oprah says next, "I believe God is cuddle with my weeble and wub."

Also interesting that she scratched the back of head right about that time... a bit of a nervous tell, eh? Deep down inside, she knows what she's spewing forth is bull dung.

It's essentially the same lie told by the serpent in the Garden: this God doesn't cuddle with my weeble and wub you; worship another god instead. And who, exactly, where Adam and Eve worshiping? Implicitly, they worshiped the serpent, but Satan is too cunning to make it obvious to them. Rather, he assisted them in twisting their own reasoning so that they choose their own will over God's, and in essence worshiping themselves. And what's the quote Oprah provides immediately following? Ekhart saying "man made God in his own image."

We do, in fact, and that is the problem with the world.

Not sure about the plug for whatever cheap book that was at the end. But hearing Oprah's deversion story was insightful enough to make it worthwhile.

[Galloglasses]

And here's me worrying she'd get snared up by Scientology and thus, dooming America by assuring Scientology's dominance of the airwaves.


She's something much worse now...

[MissyP89]

I used to cuddle with my weeble and wub her a few years ago...but lately, her shows and her message have taken on a spiritual tone that I simply can't reconcile myself with.

Sad.

[cathoholic_anonymous]

She is misrepresenting the writings of Meister Eckhart. Now I understand why orthodox Jews do not permit people to go near mystical theology until they are forty years old and well grounded in their faith - it is too easy to mutilate it without the necessary knowledge and maturity. I have heard a Carmelite friar give a similar caution about studying the poetry of St John of the Cross and the writings of other Catholic mystics. I was a bit puzzled at the time. Now I see why he said that.

[-I---Love]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1493459' date='Apr 6 2008, 10:26 AM']She is misrepresenting the writings of Meister Eckhart. Now I understand why orthodox Jews do not permit people to go near mystical theology until they are forty years old and well grounded in their faith - it is too easy to mutilate it without the necessary knowledge and maturity. I have heard a Carmelite friar give a similar caution about studying the poetry of St John of the Cross and the writings of other Catholic mystics. I was a bit puzzled at the time. Now I see why he said that.[/quote]

She is referring to Eckhart Tolle, the living man she had on her show, not Meister Eckhart who lived from the 1200 - 1300's.

[cathoholic_anonymous]

Ahh. I only know of one Eckhart.

Thank goodness.

[dominicansoul]

[quote]Not sure about the plug for whatever cheap book that was at the end. But hearing Oprah's deversion story was insightful enough to make it worthwhile.[/quote]

Yeah, I didn't care too much for the plug of that book, either. I just wanted to share the rest of it, because, it's something I believe most Christians don't know about Oprah. In fact, many of my Christian friends believed her to be an "outstanding" Christian!

[Innocent]

I saw an article about her on CultNews the other day. Here it is: [url="http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2294"]Has Oprah Winfrey become a televangelist?[/url]

Edited April 9, 2008 by Innocent

[Deb]

I sent her a long email suggesting maybe she actually have some people on her show that can discuss real miracles, the ones that come from God. I also told her that she is now working for the other side and she can't see it. She has sold her soul. I am sure it never made it to her though.

[CatherineM]

I doubt she got to read the email. Can you imagine how many she must get on a daily basis just from people wanting money. When you have been given as large a soapbox as she has, you have such a greater responsibility to use it for proper things. That much power has got to lead to all sorts of temptations. She seems to have fallen down the wrong path. I think Adam and Eve basically made themselves gods by doing their will instead of the Father's. That's what Oprah seems to be doing as well.

[farglefeezlebut]

That video says it is "the largest Church in the world." It has an attendance of 2 million. That's TINY compared to the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church. I don't have any figures now, but I'm pretty sure that the Anglican communion, the Methodist Church, the Baptist Church, The Lutheran Church etc. all are bigger than 2 million.

We shouldn't feel threatened by a silly woman.

[praying4carmel]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1493459' date='Apr 6 2008, 11:26 AM']She is misrepresenting the writings of Meister Eckhart. Now I understand why orthodox Jews do not permit people to go near mystical theology until they are forty years old and well grounded in their faith - it is too easy to mutilate it without the necessary knowledge and maturity. I have heard a Carmelite friar give a similar caution about studying the poetry of St John of the Cross and the writings of other Catholic mystics. I was a bit puzzled at the time. Now I see why he said that.[/quote]


Absolutely CA! and [b]thanks[/b][u][/u] for posting that comment.

The traps of power are subtle indeed but very deadly. There is all a bit of Thomas in us who wants to see 'proof' of things and that's how we get trapped by New Age philosophy, and misuse of Mystical Theology without being grounded in our faith. St. Teresa warns in her Life I think chap. 24? or so about it being bad to try to go towards God by raising oneself up in prayer rather than letting Him do the raising. New Age philosophy is like that, trying to achieve success, perfection, etc through one's efforts and most importantly SEEING the results of those efforts..More money..more 'powers" etc.

Our Lord warns us that we must lose our life to find it. He wasn't kidding. Humility is in short supply these days.

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='farglefeezlebut' post='1495510' date='Apr 9 2008, 12:28 PM']That video says it is "the largest Church in the world." It has an attendance of 2 million. That's TINY compared to the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church. I don't have any figures now, but I'm pretty sure that the Anglican communion, the Methodist Church, the Baptist Church, The Lutheran Church etc. all are bigger than 2 million.

We shouldn't feel threatened by a silly woman.[/quote]

True, she isn't a real threat, but you gotta realize that most of those 2 million (I presume that's the Oprah Show's average number of television viewers in America) are also Catholic, Baptist, Anglican, Lutheran, or Methodist. A professing Christian was spotlighted in the video asking how to reconcile New Age beliefs with Christianity. More importantly, though, Oprah's philosophy influences the majority of Americans, at least to some degree. She represents the values of our increasingly post-Christian society. But, we (as the Church) can respond by addressing the hunger that she feeds with candy and give the meat and freedom of the Gospel instead.