Obama, The Anti-christ?

[kafka]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1633616' date='Aug 21 2008, 01:22 PM']Well, the thing is, in the end learning will increase. I realize what it meant is we would start to learn the things that we need to learn about God and the world more and more before the end. It is no wonder people are starting to get this revelation, because we are starting to realize the things people have been focusing on tend to explain only so much, and the world is a whole lot bigger than what we've been taught.

Like, the teaching a chip that someone will implant us with damns us, because it's the mark of the beast. But why? Why does it beaver dam us. But when you think, it's God's job to feed, cloth, and shelter us, we show lack of faith he will supply if we do take the chip, so we place ourselves before God, a big no-no, and therefore men become God because we don't trust him enough. That is a teaching I wish everybody would take heart. We shouldn't put ourselves before God in anything. We should totally rely on him to do what he says he is going to do, because if we don't, then we will find out we will eventually fall for the Mark of the Beast, because we have already decided to take it, therefore we have already taken it.

We are taking steps towards taking over things only God should do, and it is subtle how the proponents of those things will do it. They always make it sound like it is for our own good, while secretly knowing it is just one step closer of us developing spiritual pride and be cast down.[/quote]
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying here I just want to make one correction. The mark of the beast is not an implanted microchip. It is going to be some sort of seal (maybe a tatoo) of the name of Antrichrist (666 represent 6 letters in his first middle and last name) on the forehead or forearm.

[KnightofChrist]

The mark on the forehead could simply mean selling your soul, or something of that nature to the AntiChrist and the mark on the forearm could simply mean one does the works of the AntiChrist.

[kafka]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1633818' date='Aug 21 2008, 05:58 PM']The mark on the forehead could simply mean selling your soul, or something of that nature to the AntiChrist and the mark on the forearm could simply mean one does the works of the AntiChrist.[/quote]
Obviously, we are dealing in the realm of pious opinion/theological speculation, but I disagree with what you say since it doesnt seem to make sense:

{13:16} And she will cause everyone, small and great, wealthy and poor, free and servant, to have a character on their right hand or on their foreheads,
{13:17} so that no one may buy or sell, unless he has the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
{13:18} Here is wisdom. Whoever has intelligence, let him determine the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man, and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

~for the most part these verses are straightforward, no one may buy or sell unless they have a visible and tangible character, name or number of Antichrist on their forehead or right arm. If this were not the case how could it be determined whether one could buy or sell?

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='kafka' post='1633623' date='Aug 21 2008, 12:32 PM']I agree with the spirit of what you are saying here I just want to make one correction. The mark of the beast is not an implanted microchip. It is going to be some sort of seal (maybe a tatoo) of the name of Antrichrist (666 represent 6 letters in his first middle and last name) on the forehead or forearm.[/quote]

LOL!

I don't think the chip is the mark either. I just believe we spiritually say, we will not trust God and trust in ourselves, and, in effect, become Antichrists when we do that.

If you have to believe it has anything to do with something physical, I would remind you God cares little about the physical because he's spiritual. So we have to forget what physical thing we are talking about and remind ourselves to look deeper.

Are you going to put faith in God to take care of you or are you going to take the mark, whatever it turns out to be?

You are all wrong!

Edited August 21, 2008 by MakeYouThink

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1633904' date='Aug 21 2008, 06:32 PM']LOL!

You are all wrong![/quote]
Aren't going to get many people on your side talking like that.

[lilac_angel]

Turns out what I mentioned earlier about the Antichrist also being a movement or phenomenon throughout time was actually a blog that reprinted part of one of Cardinal Newman's speeches. I know that he has been mentioned above.

[url="http://thedivinelamp.stblogs.com/2007/11/26/the-time-of-the-antichrist/"]http://thedivinelamp.stblogs.com/2007/11/2...the-antichrist/[/url]

He seems to back up his views well.

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1634789' date='Aug 22 2008, 01:53 PM']Aren't going to get many people on your side talking like that.[/quote]

When the fullness of time comes, and the mark is presented, I won't have to get people on my side. There will be a great division and a shaking and a seperation between the wheat and the tares.

So, I am not getting anybody on my side on this. I have already chosen it would better for me to die than to allow someone to tell me how to live, think, and act, because Jesus was willing to lay it all down for me, I will be willing to trust in him totally, and die for him!

My life is not my own, it is his!

I'm just giving everybody a clue, that is what the choice will be. The choice is not to take something physical or not, but are you willing to trust God or are you going to do what you think is right!

Can you imagine the fights betweens children and parents, husband and wives and families when some say, I will not allow anybody tell me how to buy and sell, I trust God to take care of me, and he will. That is one of the signs of the end, according to Jesus, that father will turn on son, and mother on daughter and brother against sister. . .

All because some will say no, and others yes, because some will trust, and others will fear!