KnightofChrist Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 The fact is Obama went to a low point calling someone a pig, or people pigs. He either called Palin a pig, McCain, or republicans. Which ever it is, it was a low down dirty thing to say, for a person running for president to say. God have mercy on John McCain if he ever said anything close to that, because all media hell would be set lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1652424' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:54 PM']Oops. [url="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/09/09/mccain-said-lipstick-too.aspx"]McCain Said "Lipstick" Too[/url] The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Or is that sexist [/quote] If Hillary was introduced to America and known for a lipstick joke, then he would be. Obama, the greatest orator every known to man, used the lipstick comment at the wrong time. We just came out of a successful RNC where Palin was highly watched. Everyone has the lipstick joke on their mind. The mental connection is easy. Sorry for questioning The One's incredible skills in public speaking. He is flawless... impeccable. </sarcasm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1652424' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:54 PM']Oops. [url="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/09/09/mccain-said-lipstick-too.aspx"]McCain Said "Lipstick" Too[/url] The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Or is that sexist [/quote] What lady? Palin isn't protesting, and hasn't made any public comment on this. The McCain/Palin campaign is (rightfully) speaking out about this. [quote name='kamiller42' post='1652431' date='Sep 10 2008, 05:00 PM']If Hillary was introduced to America and known for a lipstick joke, then he would be. Obama, the greatest orator every known to man, used the lipstick comment at the wrong time.[/quote] I agree. The audience seemed to know that the reference was pointed at Palin--they began laughing and cheering as soon as Obama said the word "lipstick." If he really honestly didn't mean that comment, and the stinky fish comment that followed, to be directed at Palin--he was the only one in the room that didn't know what was coming out of his mouth. He's at the most a sexist bully. He's at the very least a clueless man with piss-poor judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 Again, it's interesting to note that [url="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13315.html"]Biden made a similar, but far less offensive, statement earlier the same day[/url]: “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick.” Use of the word "lipstick" must have been a talking point after Governor Palin's "pitbull / lipstick" comment at the GOP Convention. The comments are clearly aimed at Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1652424' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:54 PM']Oops. [url="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/09/09/mccain-said-lipstick-too.aspx"]McCain Said "Lipstick" Too[/url] The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Or is that sexist [/quote] The difference, though, is that Obama used the phrase a week or so after Palin alluded to herself as a pit bull with lipstick... One week. And in the context of Obama's speech, "the pig" was "change." In McCain's example, there is no such previous reference to Clinton's lipstick. And "the pig" was her health care plan being dressed up... not her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) Well the media talking heads are taking care of it's baby Obama, spinning his revised version of the story. Edited September 10, 2008 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1652498' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:41 PM']Well the media talking heads are taking care of it's baby Obama, spinning his revised version of the story.[/quote] Or they just realize it's not that big of a deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Wow, not even the media can him help now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1652499' date='Sep 10 2008, 05:46 PM']Or they just realize it's not that big of a deal...[/quote] Oh I know the media probably thinks all republican woman are walmart shopping, gun carrying pigs, with lipstick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) [quote name='littleflower+JMJ' post='1652502' date='Sep 10 2008, 06:52 PM']Wow, not even the media can him help now. [/quote] I agree. The Dem's campaign is sliding downhill, and it's starting to pick up speed. Edited September 10, 2008 by Lounge Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1652503' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:53 PM']Oh I know the media probably thinks all republican woman are walmart shopping, gun carrying pigs, with lipstick...[/quote] They're not? This is news to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) [quote name='littleflower+JMJ' post='1652502' date='Sep 10 2008, 06:52 PM']Wow, not even the media can him help now. [/quote] No they can't. And Obama is going to have to spend the weekend explaining this now. Either he meant what he said and he is a sexist bully. Or he was the only one in the room that didn't know what he was saying; [url="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080910.htm"]as the members in the media observed[/url] that the audience clearly knew who was being referenced in the juvenile comment: [indent]When one reporter asked Swift why she assumed the remarks were directed at Palin, Swift replied: 'It seemed to me a gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race.'" ABC World News simply reported, "Now, some members of the audience thought" Obama "was surely talking about...Palin's joke last week that the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is lipstick, but a spokesman for Obama said no, he was just using an old expression." NBC Nightly News reported the audience at an Obama event "actually started chanting no more pit bull. Pretty sarcastic reference to that lipstick joke that...Palin made at the GOP convention."[/indent] Either way, Obama demonstrates that he has awful judgment... again. Edited September 10, 2008 by Lounge Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpareTime Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='kamiller42' post='1652422' date='Sep 10 2008, 04:52 PM']The standard you and fidei set says the Cowboys fans are required to cheer equally for the Redskins. Why?[/quote] No... It's more like, if I were a Dallas fan and clearly saw that Dallas did something wrong, but insisted that they didn't, argued with the stripes, and screamed and yelled at how the Redskin fans were dishonest and that the Redskins are awful and bad sports and yet I was acting the same way. It's dishonest either way, whether you're talking about politics or football. And as Catholics we shouldn't just shrug our shoulders and say, "Oh well. Who cares? They are being dirty so I'll be dirty too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpareTime Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1652546' date='Sep 10 2008, 07:40 PM']No they can't. And Obama is going to have to spend the weekend explaining this now. Either he meant what he said and he is a sexist bully. Or he was the only one in the room that didn't know what he was saying; [url="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080910.htm"]as the members in the media observed[/url] that the audience clearly knew who was being referenced in the juvenile comment: [indent]When one reporter asked Swift why she assumed the remarks were directed at Palin, Swift replied: 'It seemed to me a gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race.'" ABC World News simply reported, "Now, some members of the audience thought" Obama "was surely talking about...Palin's joke last week that the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is lipstick, but a spokesman for Obama said no, he was just using an old expression." NBC Nightly News reported the audience at an Obama event "actually started chanting no more pit bull. Pretty sarcastic reference to that lipstick joke that...Palin made at the GOP convention."[/indent] Either way, Obama demonstrates that he has awful judgment... again.[/quote] Yes. I like you. We need more people who can make good, honest arguments against Obama without inserting made-up "facts" into their arguments! It isn't that hard so I don't see why people feel the need to go to fabrication.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpareTime Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1652503' date='Sep 10 2008, 06:53 PM']Oh I know the media probably thinks all republican woman are walmart shopping, gun carrying pigs, with lipstick...[/quote] I am pretty sure the media (if you're talking about the liberal media) makes it sound like all republicans are RICH gun-toting pigs. With and without lipstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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