Vincent Vega Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1699882' date='Nov 11 2008, 11:06 PM']Of course Alaska is a unique state consideing a major portion of the budget comes from oil. I think Fareed Zakaria called it excelent training to be a Saudi Prince, not so much beyond that. Still, I don't want to take away from her, she is a govonor. Perhapse there is more to Palin than meets the eye, or perhapse she can just read a sassy speech on a teleprompter really well. S far she has only show an ability to do the latter. it would be interesting to know more about the minute details of her govonorship[/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1699921' date='Nov 11 2008, 11:54 PM']Agreed.[/quote] we agree, who'd a think it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1699926' date='Nov 12 2008, 12:04 AM'] we agree, who'd a think it [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='XIX' post='1699905' date='Nov 11 2008, 08:31 PM']I wonder how many people have actually sat through the debates and the interviews and analyzed how she did? I'll be honest--I haven't, so I can't even hazard a guess as to how competent she is. I kinda doubt that watching them would give me any real info about her. I care a lot more about a person's policies and viewpoints.[/quote] her debate with Biden was on at the same time as canada's leader's debate(good timing, durr) so i didn't get to watch it all the way through. i learnt a lot about the candidates in the debates, i found them worth sitting through. policies and view points, ehhh i am not so crazy about. statements can be poured over, prefabricated and written by other people. if anything of the candidate themselves shows through it will be merely what they intend. good or bad intention is only part of it. if they aren't competent they will not be able to carry through with their intentions effectively, and can cause lots of collateral damage(see George Bush). if they aren't sincere, they wont do as they say. if they aren't intelligent, how do you know that the good sounding policy isn't just a polished turd? to me, the debates and interviews are the closest you get to seeing someone in action, sink or swim with no one else to step in and bail them out. shows a lot about people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1699867' date='Nov 11 2008, 09:52 PM']yeah, you are right... well, she probably has a higher i.q. than i do...[/quote] I seriously doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='XIX' post='1699905' date='Nov 11 2008, 10:31 PM']I wonder how many people have actually sat through the debates and the interviews and analyzed how she did? I'll be honest--I haven't, so I can't even hazard a guess as to how competent she is. I kinda doubt that watching them would give me any real info about her. I care a lot more about a person's policies and viewpoints.[/quote] The thing I'm wondering is just how did hearsay (and anonymous hearsay) become major news? The media bias is showing big time, but they will not be focusing on her after a couple weeks. She will do far better when she is not running against the chosen ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' post='1699972' date='Nov 12 2008, 12:03 AM']She will do far better when she is not running against the chosen ticket.[/quote] like DUH! totally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) [quote]Given that Obama had served on a Chicago board with Ayers and approved funding of a leftist educational project sponsored by Ayers, one might think that the unrepentant Ayers-Dohrn couple might be of some interest to the national media. [b]But no, reporters have been too busy playing mini-badminton with every random spitball about Sarah Palin, who has been subjected to an atrocious and at times delusional level of defamation merely because she has the temerity to hold pro-life views.[/b] [color="#FF0000"]My thoughts exactly![/color] How dare Palin not embrace abortion as the ultimate civilized ideal of modern culture? How tacky that she speaks in a vivacious regional accent indistinguishable from that of Western Canada! [b]How risible that she graduated from the University of Idaho and not one of those plush, pampered commodes of received opinion whose graduates, in their rush to believe the worst about her, have demonstrated that, when it comes to sifting evidence, they don't know their asses from their elbows.[/b] [color="#FF0000"]OUCH![/color] Liberal Democrats are going to wake up from their sadomasochistic, anti-Palin orgy with a very big hangover. The evil genie released during this sorry episode will not so easily go back into its bottle. [b]A shocking level of irrational emotionalism and at times infantile rage was exposed at the heart of current Democratic ideology -- contradicting Democratic core principles of compassion, tolerance and independent thought.[/b] [color="#FF0000"]disagree, democrats are for baby-killing, one would hardly find that compassionate![/color] One would have to look back to the Eisenhower 1950s for parallels to this grotesque lock-step parade of bourgeois provincialism, shallow groupthink and blind prejudice. I like Sarah Palin, and I've heartily enjoyed her arrival on the national stage. [b]As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is -- and quite frankly, I think the people who don't see it are the stupid ones, wrapped in the fuzzy mummy-gauze of their own worn-out partisan dogma.[/b] So she doesn't speak the King's English -- big whoop! There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist. [b]I stand on what I said (as a staunch pro-choice advocate) in my last two columns -- that Palin as a pro-life wife, mother and ambitious professional represents the next big shift in feminism. Pro-life women will save feminism by expanding it, particularly into the more traditional Third World.[/b] [color="#FF0000"]Wow. Very suprising coming from such a stauch pro-abortionists...![/color] As for the Democrats who sneered and howled that Palin was unprepared to be a vice-presidential nominee -- what navel-gazing hypocrisy! What protests were raised in the party or mainstream media when John Edwards, with vastly less political experience than Palin, got John Kerry's nod for veep four years ago? And Gov. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas, for whom I lobbied to be Obama's pick and who was on everyone's short list for months, has a record indistinguishable from Palin's. Whatever knowledge deficit Palin has about the federal bureaucracy or international affairs (outside the normal purview of governors) will hopefully be remedied during the next eight years of the Obama presidencies. [color="#FF0000"]God forbid! [i]8 years![/i] I pray not![/color][/quote] [url="http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/"]http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/[/url] I find this woman disagreeable most of the time, but she sure made some pretty strong points on Palin's competence... thanks to cmom for her thread on this article! Edited November 13, 2008 by dominicansoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 +J.M.J.+ don't know if it's been posted: [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin"]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/tel...amp;oref=slogin[/url] the whole "africa" thing was a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 My sentiment about the whole election, and keep in mind this a canadien papist speaking; The democrates were going to win no matter what; until Palin took the stage. she gave mcCain a fighting chance to actually win the darn thing. if it weren't for that fact, Palin would not have been attacked so much. She was attacked out of fear from the Democrates full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM Sister Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have to laugh at the "she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was" statement. It was actually coined by Charles Krauthammer, who said she actually got that one right by asking for clarification, since the supposed Bush Doctrine has at least 4 definitions. He coined the phrase... he oughta know. Also, the date Gibson quoted as the date the doctrine "was articulated" was not the correct date. So, when she said, "In what respect, Charlie?" she was dead-on. And then when she said "His world view?" and then went on to correctly sum it up, she was dead-on again. I agree, she does not have the best grasp of spoken English... and that tends to woo voters (style) more than actual substance. So, if she wants to win in 2012 (and I pray that she does) she will have to master that. As far as ability and "gut instincts" go, though, she has my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 as i have said before, she is definitely more intelligent than the media gives her credit for. but how do explain that katie couric interview? it was rambling, completely ludicrous, and totally embarrassing to watch. hell i have no idea what politics are like where she is, but i could have ad-libbed something much more coherent and plausible if you woke me up in the middle of the night and i was hung over! it really suggested to me that she is much like bush, when without a prepared statement from "handlers" she became like a deer in the headlights. quick witted, wont crack under pressure, solid handle of a situation, all presidential traits, and none were there that night. Palin seems like another cadidate to be a "puppet president" like reagan and bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 [quote name='Jesus_lol' post='1705370' date='Nov 20 2008, 04:02 PM']as i have said before, she is definitely more intelligent than the media gives her credit for. but how do explain that katie couric interview? it was rambling, completely ludicrous, and totally embarrassing to watch. hell i have no idea what politics are like where she is, but i could have ad-libbed something much more coherent and plausible if you woke me up in the middle of the night and i was hung over! it really suggested to me that she is much like bush, when without a prepared statement from "handlers" she became like a deer in the headlights. quick witted, wont crack under pressure, solid handle of a situation, all presidential traits, and none were there that night. Palin seems like another cadidate to be a "puppet president" like reagan and bush[/quote] Reagan was a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 yeah i am not sure why i put him in there, i have heard stuff about him suggesting that, but i really dont know. bush on the other hand, well he is such a goof that if someone else wasnt pulling the strings he would fall down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Considering Reagan single-handily brought down the Soviet Union, I really don't think he was a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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