Hassan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='BG45' post='1747713' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:35 PM']Seriously Hassan, flashbacks to third grade here. [/quote] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1747743' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:18 PM']I have not defended terrorism and your sophomoric attempts to again imply I am are just pathetic.[/quote] You keep saying "I have not defended terrorism" and yet where have you opposed it? Your focus on definitions and various interpretations is a roundabout way of avoidng the question. While these things are important they could have been addressed in a civil manner. Instead you attempt to belittle me. But thanks for the personal attack, hun. I'll be hitting up the report button on that one. [quote name='Hassan' post='1747748' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:22 PM']That's difficult to say as I still have no clear definition of what you mean by terrorists and so don’t know how wide a scope to use. Does someone have t actually engage in violent acts to be a terrorist or can they simply support the actions of individuals who do?[/quote] Why don't you tell me what you classify as terrorism? Since you're so keen on personal definitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1747754' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:32 PM']You keep saying "I have not defended terrorism" and yet where have you opposed it?[/quote] On this thread when I denounced the Chechen attacks on Russian school children as the murder of innocent children. To name only the most recent example. [quote]Your focus on definitions and various interpretations is a roundabout way of avoidng the question.[/quote] No, it's a way of getting to the bottom of your vague claims. [quote]While these things are important they could have been addressed in a civil manner. Instead you attempt to belittle me.[/quote] I have not tried to belittle you, I have gotten annoyed over your repeated claims that I support or defend terrorism despite the numerous times I have said that is not the case. [quote]But thanks for the personal attack, hun. I'll be hitting up the report button on that one.[/quote] Even if I get banned that does not make your claim any less ambiguous or even almost scientific. Moreover I did not attack you, I described your attempts to smear me by claiming I defend terrorism "pathetic" which they are. [quote]Why don't you tell me what you classify as terrorism? Since you're so keen on personal definitions.[/quote] off the top of my head? Attacks against civilian populations for the purpose of coercing them to a political end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Lil Red' post='1747386' date='Jan 9 2009, 04:27 PM']+J.M.J.+ guys, please. i'm tired and i don't want to deal with a report. so just play nice today, okay? and stay within the topic? thanks.[/quote] Yes, please. You have a whole lame board to get side-tracked with lameness. PLEASE do not deliberately take threads in Open Mic (or elsewhere) off topic. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Let me be absolutely clear. Any form of terrorism is wrong. I don’t care if it is by Black Star, Al Quaida, Jewish Underground, IRA, Hamas, Israel, the United States, United Nations personnel, or angry nuns etc. Any brutalization of a civilian population is unambiguously wrong, the end. Edited January 10, 2009 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1747765' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:41 PM']Attacks against civilian populations for the purpose of coercing them to a political end[/quote] But I am the one being vague, right? This is a fundemental definition lacking what makes terrorism...well, terrorism. [b] Instilling fear or terror against civilian populations via attacks for the purpose of coercing them to a political end[/b] would be more precise. [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1747767' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:42 PM']Yes, please. You have a whole lame board to get side-tracked with lameness. PLEASE do not deliberately take threads in Open Mic (or elsewhere) off topic. Thank you.[/quote] Thank you. I will return to this discussion when it becomes worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1747767' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:42 PM']Yes, please. You have a whole lame board to get side-tracked with lameness. PLEASE do not deliberately take threads in Open Mic (or elsewhere) off topic. Thank you.[/quote] Is that with regards to chickpeas or the discussion here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I actually agree with Hassan on the silly definition discussion. Words like cult, and gnostic, and fascism are all on my list of words I don't like to use anymore just because they have been so overused and abused they have become nothing more than meaningless attack words these days. "Terrorist" is about to be added to my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1747790' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:58 PM']I actually agree with Hassan on the silly definition discussion.[/quote] Lol, alright that, that 9/11 truth is non sense, and perhapse the fairness doctrin. Either your becoming a liberal or I'm becoming a libertarian [quote]Words like cult, and gnostic, and fascism are all on my list of words I don't like to use anymore just because they have been so overused and abused they have become nothing more than meaningless attack words these days. "Terrorist" is about to be added to my list.[/quote] exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1747799' date='Jan 9 2009, 11:09 PM']Lol, alright that, that 9/11 truth is non sense, and perhapse the fairness doctrin. Either your becoming a liberal or I'm becoming a libertarian [/quote] Ya... something's up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1747781' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:48 PM']Let me be absolutely clear. Any form of terrorism is wrong. I don’t care if it is by Black Star, Al Quaida, Jewish Underground, IRA, Hamas, Israel, the United States, United Nations personnel, or angry nuns etc. Any brutalization of a civilian population is unambiguously wrong, the end.[/quote] word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweens8403 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 these terrorists making death threat video's to the US is really getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 [quote name='sweens8403' post='1748210' date='Jan 10 2009, 03:19 PM']these terrorists making death threat video's to the US is really getting old.[/quote] That's not what this was. This was video of an American Muslim cleric who is popular, well-known and has a lot of clout with Muslims in America, making threats against America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1748344' date='Jan 10 2009, 08:11 PM']That's not what this was. This was video of an American Muslim cleric who is popular, well-known and has a lot of clout with Muslims in America, making threats against America.[/quote] How many American Muslims do you think have heard of this chap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1747785' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:52 PM']But I am the one being vague, right? This is a fundemental definition lacking what makes terrorism...well, terrorism. [b] Instilling fear or terror against civilian populations via attacks for the purpose of coercing them to a political end[/b] would be more precise. Thank you. I will return to this discussion when it becomes worthwhile.[/quote] No, I think you and Hassan have been having a very interesting discussion and I think it's been on-topic. I like reading your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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