Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I didn't say kids should watch TV as much as this study indicates. I do agree that, generally speaking, kids watch too much TV. However, I don't think that's a reason to deny children TV because we deem it "unworthy" while we ourselves watch it. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1772643' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:10 AM']Children need food and water and a roof over their heads. They don't *need* tv.[/quote] No one [i]needs [/i]TV but if the majority of the western world has it and a certain demographic does not, that puts that demographic at a disadvantage. -Katie Edited February 5, 2009 by Tinkerlina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Plus, take a Child Psych class. Any tv inhibits language development. Even the educational stuff. The brain is more active while sleeping than while watching tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772647' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:12 AM']No one [i]needs [/i]TV but if the majority of the western world has it and a certain demographic does not, that puts that demographic at a disadvantage. -Katie[/quote] It's called school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1772648' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:12 AM']Any tv inhibits language development. Even the educational stuff.[/quote] All psychology is theory. Some studies suggest that it can be good for language development in certain age groups. (here's one:http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/research/TV.html) Again, I agree that the majority of kids watch too much TV but I see no logical reason to deny someone TV based on socioeconomic status while letting others watch as often as they want as long as their parents can pay up. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1772653' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:13 AM']It's called school.[/quote] Exactly. Having TV access is sometimes necessary for schoolwork-like I mentioned, I've had teachers assign watching certain programs and having us write a paper on them. TV also gives children opportunities to watch Presidental addresses and other historic events. I remember watching the Berlin Wall come down-it was amazing and has always stuck with me. -Katie Edited February 5, 2009 by Tinkerlina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772659' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:16 AM']All psychology is theory.[/quote] No, it's empirical science. Not theoretical. And again. There is supposed to be something called a school. Tv isn't a life-or-death *need* that the public should be robbed to pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1772663' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:20 AM']No, it's empirical science. Not theoretical. And again. There is supposed to be something called a school. Tv isn't a life-or-death *need* that the public should be robbed to pay for.[/quote] Psychology isn't empirical science. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772660' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:18 AM']I've had teachers assign watching certain programs and having us write a paper on them.[/quote] You went to a Government school, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1772666' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:21 AM']You went to a Government school, didn't you?[/quote] I went to Catholic school K-8 and Public High school. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772670' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:23 AM']I went to Catholic school K-8 and Public High school. -Katie[/quote] egh. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I will stop debating this though-while I do think that kids should have access to TV regardless of their family's income, I agree with everyone here that the average child watches too much TV, that's something we can all agree on. For the record, although I love TV, I certainly prefer and recommend books over TV any day. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772645' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:10 AM']I didn't say kids should watch TV as much as this study indicates. I do agree that, generally speaking, kids watch too much TV. However, I don't think that's a reason to deny children TV because we deem it "unworthy" while we ourselves watch it. -Katie[/quote] Children cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality. Childs brains do not need programmed into 15, 30 and 60 minute cycles. Childrens language development and socialization are delayed or stunted by TV. Brains are not fully developed until about 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) My friend wrote a blog post about it and this was my response: [i]My Mum saw this the other day, only it's the rural people Obama's worried about (haha... spell check does not recognize Obama- I guess it needs a month or two *roll eyes*) He calls them "the poorest and most vulnerable in America" WHAT? Puh-lease since when is not having television what makes someone poor and vulnerable??? And... news to you, Mr. President... you still can't get digital TV in rural areas, even with a digital T.V., it just doesn't come through... All that shows up on the screen is "digital channel signal strength is too low" SO... we'll just continue our meager little lives being vulnerable. Maybe we'll even hock our useless digital television sets... [/i] (my dad won a digital TV in a raffle. Otherwise we wouldn't have it. lol [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772580' date='Feb 5 2009, 12:44 AM']In this day and age, I think kids with no access to TV are at a serious educational disadvantage. Yes, there are a number of inane shows on TV (though, like I said, I think all kids need a little mindless diversion now and then), but as they grow up, not having access to news, etc will be a problem. -Katie[/quote] I did not have much tv growing up. I am fine. [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772583' date='Feb 5 2009, 12:46 AM']Not if they're 8 and below the poverty line. -Katie[/quote] TV is not that important if you are below the poverty line. When you struggle to put food on the table, you don't care about T.V. [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772602' date='Feb 5 2009, 12:53 AM']But those kids had the benefit of above average parental involvement. Am I saying TV is crucial for cognitive development? No. I'm saying that it does have benefits. And let's not pretend we don't watch it ourselves. -Katie[/quote] I don't watch T.V. [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772660' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:18 AM']Exactly. Having TV access is sometimes necessary for schoolwork-like I mentioned, I've had teachers assign watching certain programs and having us write a paper on them. TV also gives children opportunities to watch Presidental addresses and other historic events. I remember watching the Berlin Wall come down-it was amazing and has always stuck with me. -Katie[/quote] Teachers assigned me programs to watch. We didn't have cable. I couldn't DO the assignment. They couldn't count it against me. I'm not planning on having a tv really when I have kids. MAYBE for movies occassionally. but meh, everything else is junk anyway. Even PBS has sadly gone waaaaaaaay downhill. TeleTubbies? Boo Bah? Ruff Ruffman? meh. Edited February 5, 2009 by missionseeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1772673' date='Feb 5 2009, 01:25 AM']I will stop debating this though-while I do think that kids should have access to TV regardless of their family's income, I agree with everyone here that the average child watches too much TV, that's something we can all agree on. For the record, although I love TV, I certainly prefer and recommend books over TV any day. -Katie[/quote] I gotta head to bed too. And we don't have tv. Any. And our 9 kids are fine, btw. In my America, there isn't a *right* or a *need* for tv, let alone to have other people pay for it. Our Federal Government is doing a great job of subverting minds. It's a nice racket, they control the digital tv signals, and they make sure that everyone has a digital tv in their homes. We are not to far from State-run media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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