cmotherofpirl Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='TradMom' post='1774051' date='Feb 6 2009, 04:40 PM']+Praised be Jesus Christ! Thank you for the clarification. I suppose it would be fine to post links to Anton La Vey here since he did not claim to represent the Roman Catholic Church? Very interesting.[/quote] As long as the link didn't go to anything outside the bounds of common decency, was satanic etc, it could probably be discussed on the debate board. Over the years the discussion there has ranged from atheists to the morality of killling zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='TradMom' post='1773986' date='Feb 6 2009, 02:38 PM']+Praised be Jesus Christ! I find it very interesting that a moderator would choose to post an excerpt from an article written by a very well known "former" Catholic (whom is now an atheist), lesbian (who speaks honestly about living with her partner and raising a child), pro-choice writer. Her honesty is refreshing but not helpful for those wanting to deepen their spiritual life. Camille Paglia is an excellent writer, but certainly not appropriate for this website. I am sure you could have found a Catholic writer (or at least one who holds respect for the Holy Roman Catholic Church) with the same opinion. I would urge all those on this website who consider themselves Catholic to avoid her writings. If there was ever a thread that is inappropriate, this would be one. At the very least, more information (other than "left leaning liberal" and "pro-abortion") should have been given about her so readers could have been better informed before going to her column. TradMom[/quote] The point of Lil Red's original post is, I believe, to show that even some on the left are oppossed to the Fairness Doctrine. Quoting a conservative would not have met that goal, don't you agree? I believe that Red was upfront when stating that the author was left-leaning and that she did not agree with much of her other idealogy. You are commiting a genetic fallacy-- dismissing the argument because of who brought the point to light. In this case both Paglia and Lil Red.... It is standard practice when quoting from an article on the internet to also post a link to wear the rest of the article can be found and read in context. That is to avoid pulling out something from some unknown place and using it without allowing others to varify it. And, I believe, to avoid violating copywrite laws. [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1773998' date='Feb 6 2009, 02:55 PM']moderators don't have moderators to moderate them.....[/quote] That's just rude. If you have a specific legitment complaint with the moderating here, you are welcome to pm the mods about it or you can email dUSt, the webmaster. [quote name='osapientia' post='1774026' date='Feb 6 2009, 03:18 PM']Dear TradMom, Praised be Jesus Christ! I want to support this post of yours 100%.[/quote] I snipped this to save space. Ms. Paglia never claims to be in union with Rome. That is the difference. We are very cautious when it comes to linking convents that are not in union with Rome. Now... Please get back on the topic of Fairness Doctrine. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 i think it is refreshing to see such an unseemly character agreeing with most of us on the "fairness doctrine." perhaps the Holy Spirit is working wonders in this woman...how do we know what is happening, truly in her personal life? conversions can come very slow....paglia, in recent months has surprised me time and time again... ....we never know, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote]That's just rude. If you have a specific legitment complaint with the moderating here, you are welcome to pm the mods about it or you can email dUSt, the webmaster.[/quote] i was not intending to be rude...i was merely making an observation... i do apologize if it has offended you so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Respectfully, and in my capacity as a moderator, I don't think that this thread topic needs editing. I've checked it out, I don't think it's confusing, because, as Lil Red said, Camile Paglia isn't claiming to represent the Fullness of Truth. The warning that she's a pro-abortion Liberal should be plenty of warning enough without having to go into the woman's life history. Any other time material that might not be appropriate for all readers needs a warning it's given a one-liner "Warning, content might not be suitable/is explicit/etc." There is no reason why this needs any more than that. Further, it's always worthwhile to know what the "enemy" is saying. it might not be pleasant but it helps us prepare ourselves to combat the nutty things they say. How can we go about defending Truth if we don't know what we're up against? Any further complaints about moderation of this thread WILL be deleted (per the guidelines all concerns about moderating should be taken up in private). Please, if you're going to post in this thread comment about the article in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osapientia Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1774063' date='Feb 6 2009, 04:52 PM']Now... Please get back on the topic of Fairness Doctrine. Thank you.[/quote] Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the topic of this discussion is: Camille Paglia on the Fairness Doctrine. It seems to me that discussion of Ms Paglia's opinions, writings etc and questions concerning her fitness for PM are appropriate in a thread which bears her name in the subject. No? Pax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='osapientia' post='1774074' date='Feb 6 2009, 05:05 PM']Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the topic of this discussion is: Camille Paglia on the Fairness Doctrine. It seems to me that discussion of Ms Paglia's opinions, writings etc and questions concerning her fitness for PM are appropriate in a thread which bears her name in the subject. No? Pax[/quote] No. The discussion is not on Camile Paglia's person, it is on ONE specific article regarding the Fairness Doctrine. It's already been stated why it's being allowed to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='osapientia' post='1774074' date='Feb 6 2009, 04:05 PM']Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the topic of this discussion is: Camille Paglia on the Fairness Doctrine. It seems to me that discussion of Ms Paglia's opinions, writings etc and questions concerning her fitness for PM are appropriate in a thread which bears her name in the subject. No? Pax[/quote] Please either comment on Ms. Paglia's assessment of the Fairness Doctrine or refrain from commenting in this thread further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I think it is great that this person recognizes the right of conservatives to exist and exercise their free speech. Liberals should realize that the Fairness Doctrine can threaten them as well, with the right leaders in place after future election cycles when Democrats are once again removed. I don't see this woman as satan though, and no matter where our world view lies, we are likely to get some things right and some things wrong. It is only at the cross of Christ and through His Church do we find the fullness of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1774065' date='Feb 6 2009, 01:53 PM']i think it is refreshing to see such an unseemly character agreeing with most of us on the "fairness doctrine." perhaps the Holy Spirit is working wonders in this woman...how do we know what is happening, truly in her personal life? conversions can come very slow....paglia, in recent months has surprised me time and time again... ....we never know, do we?[/quote] +J.M.J.+ i totally agree. many times she has surprised me in her columns, i.e. thinking that the feminist movement needs to open itself up to pro life women or it will die; calling liberals out in their treatment of sarah palin, etc. and that was my point in posting her column. thanks, ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osapientia Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1774090' date='Feb 6 2009, 05:23 PM']Please either comment on Ms. Paglia's assessment of the Fairness Doctrine or refrain from commenting in this thread further.[/quote] In my opinion Ms. Paglia's assessment of the Fairness Doctrine, while agreeing with the conservative agenda on the surface, occurs only by virtue of happenstance. Pax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Lil Red' post='1773955' date='Feb 6 2009, 03:04 PM']+J.M.J.+ me too![/quote] I've found myself agreeing with her a few times recently. And she's just so blasted thoughtful, even when I disagree with her. Edited February 7, 2009 by Lounge Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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journeyman Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 [quote name='osapientia' post='1774132' date='Feb 6 2009, 06:17 PM']In my opinion Ms. Paglia's assessment of the Fairness Doctrine, while agreeing with the conservative agenda on the surface, occurs only by virtue of happenstance. Pax[/quote] Would that the participants in so many conflicts in the world today could find even one point of agreement upon which to begin their understanding of one another a principled philosophical agreement is much better for reaching understanding than "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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