HisChildForever Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1776192' date='Feb 8 2009, 07:33 PM']this church i went to today only gave the body and not the blood? is this allowed to happen?[/quote] My Church has stopped distributing the Blood to the congregation. The priest(s) consume it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridicus Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1776192' date='Feb 8 2009, 07:33 PM']this church i went to today only gave the body and not the blood? is this allowed to happen?[/quote] Yes that is allowed and was the liturgical norm for many, many centuries. It wasn't until this last century that the laity commonly communicated under both species. The reasoning being it was a more 'complete sense' of participation in Communion (it had long before been decided that the entirety of the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ were fully present under either species). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1776175' date='Feb 8 2009, 06:24 PM']We skip the second reading more often than not[/quote] At weekday masses at school we never have a second reading. Do you think there's any particular reason for this? I quite enjoy the second readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776246' date='Feb 8 2009, 09:18 PM']At weekday masses at school we never have a second reading. Do you think there's any particular reason for this? I quite enjoy the second readings.[/quote] I'm fairly certain there's no second reading prescribed for any weekday mass. I think the OT-Epistle-NT is a feature of the Sunday/H.D.o.O. Mass only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoecool13 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776246' date='Feb 8 2009, 08:18 PM']At weekday masses at school we never have a second reading. Do you think there's any particular reason for this? I quite enjoy the second readings.[/quote] [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1776343' date='Feb 8 2009, 09:31 PM']I'm fairly certain there's no second reading prescribed for any weekday mass. I think the OT-Epistle-NT is a feature of the Sunday/H.D.o.O. Mass only.[/quote] You are correct. Only on high feast days during the week is there a second reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoecool13 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776146' date='Feb 8 2009, 06:43 PM']Second bolded: I thought it was technically allowed but discouraged and probably going to become illicit. I'm wrong?[/quote] It better not be. As a percussionist, I'll be the first to say that most Church drummers should never be playing in that setting. To many of them don't know what they're doing and are just people that used to play, or play in a garage rock band, but never truly learned the Percussive Arts. However, I think there are enough true percussionists out there that truly add something beautiful and wonderful to the Mass when played correctly. I hope someday you'll be able to attend Mass where this is the case. Either way, I'll go Sola Scriptura on ya and tell you as a Percussionist, there's always Psalm 150:5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Zoecool13' post='1776429' date='Feb 8 2009, 11:14 PM']It better not be. As a percussionist, I'll be the first to say that most Church drummers should never be playing in that setting. To many of them don't know what they're doing and are just people that used to play, or play in a garage rock band, but never truly learned the Percussive Arts. However, I think there are enough true percussionists out there that truly add something beautiful and wonderful to the Mass when played correctly. I hope someday you'll be able to attend Mass where this is the case. Either way, I'll go Sola Scriptura on ya and tell you as a Percussionist, there's always Psalm 150:5. [/quote] I sincerely hope I am never subjected to any kind of drums at a Catholic Mass in the US. It is certainly not part of mainstream American culture and should have no place in church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776437' date='Feb 8 2009, 11:19 PM']I sincerely hope I am never subjected to any kind of drums at a Catholic Mass in the US. It is certainly not part of mainstream American culture and should have no place in church.[/quote] If you aren't, you're amongst the lucky minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoecool13 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776437' date='Feb 8 2009, 10:19 PM']I sincerely hope I am never subjected to any kind of drums at a Catholic Mass in the US. It is certainly not part of mainstream American culture and should have no place in church.[/quote] Don't knock it until you hear it. When done properly, they truly do add a sense of beauty to the mass. You're thinking all "drumming" is the same between church drumming and Metallica drumming. It's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Zoecool13' post='1776422' date='Feb 8 2009, 09:09 PM']You are correct. Only on high feast days during the week is there a second reading.[/quote] That would be why then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1776437' date='Feb 8 2009, 09:19 PM']I sincerely hope I am never subjected to any kind of drums at a Catholic Mass in the US. It is certainly not part of mainstream American culture and should have no place in church.[/quote] It ah..... is not particularly uncommon at the couple churches I frequent. Is this incredibly wrong? The drummers that play are very very good, but don't get me wrong; they're playing a drum kit. No auxillary sorts of things... standard kit. With chimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1776466' date='Feb 8 2009, 11:47 PM']It ah..... is not particularly uncommon at the couple churches I frequent. Is this incredibly wrong? The drummers that play are very very good, but don't get me wrong; they're playing a drum kit. No auxillary sorts of things... standard kit. With chimes.[/quote] You're amongst the lucky minority of the majority, then. Ours thinks he's touring with Lynyrd Skynyrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Latin parishes using leavened bread (possibly with things other than wheat and water added) and priests pouring more water than wine into the chalice are some of the worst I've seen, in addition to the standard overuse of extraordinary ministers. Edited February 9, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1776486' date='Feb 8 2009, 10:04 PM']Latin parishes using leavened bread (possibly with things other than wheat and water added) and priests pouring more water than wine into the chalice are some of the worst I've seen, [b]in addition to the standard overuse of extraordinary ministers.[/b][/quote] Ah! The whetstone! It burns my ears. No axe-grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 [quote name='Zoecool13' post='1776460' date='Feb 8 2009, 11:43 PM']Don't knock it until you hear it. When done properly, they truly do add a sense of beauty to the mass. You're thinking all "drumming" is the same between church drumming and Metallica drumming. It's not.[/quote] Unless it was Little Drummer Boy at Christmas I would conclude I was lost and have to walk out and ask directions to the nearest Catholic Church. I expect drums when I attend Pow-wow, or go hear a band, not at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Drums at Mass Question from Kathy on 2/7/2006: Are drums permitted at mass??? We have a set that are sometimes used during a teen mass? Are there anyguidlines regarding this?? Thanks for the great work you do for the church! Answer by Colin B. Donovan, STL on 4/4/2006: In some cultures drums have a sacred significance (e.g. Native Americans). In European derived culture (most US parishes), drums are a secular instrument and evoke secular impressiosn in us, and therefore do not meet the norms of inculturation, and should not be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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