cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 What is the meatfare? Is that what you give up next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (Withholding smart-alec response) Quick question - what is an EC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1779259' date='Feb 11 2009, 10:39 PM'](Withholding smart-alec response) Quick question - what is an EC?[/quote] Eastern Catholic as opposed to RC . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Oh,oh,oh. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have been always tempted to do Lent as the Byzantines do, so I wanted more info on it. I think they start giving stuff up this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) The Sunday of the Last Judgment (a.k.a., the Sunday of the Second Coming, and which is also called Meat-fare) has that name because the Gospel reading for the day is about the Last Judgment (Matthew 25). The name Meat-fare is used sometimes for this Sunday because it is the last day that a person can eat meat (i.e., from vertebrates: mammals, birds, fish, etc.) and shellfish until the Holy Pascha. The Sunday following Meat-fare Sunday is called Forgiveness Sunday (or the Sunday of Forgiveness), with the secondary name of Chees[i]e[/i]-fare Sunday. **Sadly this invaluable post shall be lost to eternity in the server transfer. Edited February 12, 2009 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 coagulated milk-fare? That's AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='MissyP89' post='1779456' date='Feb 11 2009, 11:04 PM']coagulated milk-fare? That's AWESOME.[/quote] Dust and his fiddler. I corrected it, but all of these posts will be lost in the great transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 13, 2009 Author Share Posted February 13, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1779451' date='Feb 12 2009, 01:55 AM']The Sunday of the Last Judgment (a.k.a., the Sunday of the Second Coming, and which is also called Meat-fare) has that name because the Gospel reading for the day is about the Last Judgment (Matthew 25). The name Meat-fare is used sometimes for this Sunday because it is the last day that a person can eat meat (i.e., from vertebrates: mammals, birds, fish, etc.) and shellfish until the Holy Pascha. The Sunday following Meat-fare Sunday is called Forgiveness Sunday (or the Sunday of Forgiveness), with the secondary name of Chees[i]e[/i]-fare Sunday. **Sadly this invaluable post shall be lost to eternity in the server transfer.[/quote] So you become a vegetarian for Lent? Can you please repost the calendar you had up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1780000' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:14 PM']So you become a vegetarian for Lent?[/quote] Yes, Meatfare Sunday is when those who have decided to follow the ancient fast give up meat for Lent, and next week is Cheesefare Sunday when Byzantines give up dairy products for Lent, but not everyone follows the ancient fast. Fasting in the Eastern Tradition is not a "legal" requirement, and so there are no canonical penalties for those who do not follow the ancient norms, nor is fasting done under pain of mortal sin. Instead, fasting is a spiritual practice encouraged by the Church for one's growth in holiness through detachment from earthly goods. That said, monastics keep the ancient fast, and the lay faithful are encouraged to keep it as well, but most of the laity follow a less strict form of the fast, fasting only on Wednesdays and Fridays from all meat (including fish), dairy products, oils, and wine. Married couples are also encouraged to fast from the marital embrace during Great Lent, and during the other liturgical fasts, i.e., Apostles' Fast, Dormition Lent, and the 40 day long St. Philip's Fast before the feast of the Nativity, and prior to the reception of communion throughout the year. Edited February 15, 2009 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1780000' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:14 PM']Can you please repost the calendar you had up?[/quote] February 15 --- Sunday of the Second Coming of Christ (Meat-Fare) February 22 --- Forgiveness Sunday (C.heese-Fare) February 23 --- Beginning of the Holy Forty Days Fast March 1 -------- 1st Sunday of Great Lent - Sunday of Orthodoxy March 7 -------- 2nd All Souls Saturday March 8 -------- 2nd Sunday of Great Lent - St. Gregory Palamas March 14 ------- 3rd All Souls Saturday March 15 ------- 3rd Sunday of Great Lent - Veneration of the Holy Cross March 21 ------- 4th All Souls Saturday March 22 ------- 4th Sunday of Great Lent - St. John Climacus March 25 ------- Feast of the Annunciation to the Mother of God March 26 ------- Canon of St. Andrew of Crete March 28 ------- Akathistos Saturday March 29 ------- 5th Sunday of Great Lent - St. Mary of Egypt April 4-12 ------- Great and Holy Week April 4 ----------- Lazarus Saturday April 5 ----------- Flowery (Palm) Sunday - Entrance into Jerusalem April 6 ----------- Holy and Great Monday April 7 ----------- Holy and Great Tuesday April 8 ----------- Holy and Great Wednesday April 9 ----------- Holy and Great Thursday April 10 ---------- Holy and Great Friday April 11 ---------- Holy and Great Saturday April 12 ---------- PASCHA - The Resurrection of Christ April 12-19 ------ Bright Week April 19 ---------- 2nd Sunday of Pascha - St. Thomas April 23 ---------- Feast of St. George the Great-Martyr April 26 ---------- 3rd Sunday of Pascha - Ointment Bearing Women May 3 ------------ 4th Sunday of Pascha - Healing of the Paralytic May 6 ------------ Mid-Pentecost May 10 ----------- 5th Sunday of Pascha - Samaritan Women May 11 ----------- Feast of Saints Cyril & Methodius May 17 ----------- 6th Sunday of Pascha - Man Born Blind May 21 ----------- Day 40 - Ascension of Our Lord May 24 ----------- 7th Sunday of Pascha - Holy Fathers of the 1st Nicean Council May 30 ----------- 5th All Souls Saturday (Memorial Saturday) May 31 ----------- Day 50 - Pentecost - Feast of the Descent of the Holy Spirit June 7 ------------ All Saints Sunday June 8- 28 ------- The Apostles' Fast June 24 ---------- Nativity of St. John the Baptist June 29 ---------- Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul July 12 ----------- Sunday of the Holy Fathers of the First Six Ecumenical Councils August 1-14 ----- Dormition Fast August 6 --------- Feast of the Transfiguration of Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ August 15 -------- Feast of the Dormition of the Mother of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thanks . Where can I find the Mass readings for these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The Byzantine Forum posts them as the Sunday feast approaches, and I am sure that there are other internet sources for the biblical pericopes associated with the different feasts in the Byzantine calendar, but I do not know of them off hand. Also, I am sure that the various Orthodox Church websites have the readings listed for the Sunday feasts, but they probably follow the old calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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