RemnantRules Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1783570' date='Feb 17 2009, 03:07 PM']I found what worked when I had teenagers was supervision. I always knew where they were, what they were doing, who they were with, etc. They were never allowed in a house or car that didn't have a [i][b]responsible[/b][/i] adult present. That took a lot of work on my part. I had to meet and talk to other kids' parents. I had to be willing to drive kids around when I'd rather be at home watching TV. I had to watch movies I didn't like, go to concerts I hated, and do the leg work to find suitable things for them to do. I also had to be willing to say no, a lot. For a lot of parents, by the time the kids get to be teenagers, they are ready to let them loose and get some rest. I couldn't have done it if I had full time job.[/quote] I wish I had parents like you! [quote name='littleflower+JMJ' post='1783757' date='Feb 17 2009, 05:49 PM']I also don't get how "everyone should wait at least 10 years to have a baby" but yet to say "everyone should wait to have sex" is just impossible.[/quote] I don't understand what you mean littleflower. It is realistic to stay a virgin as long as you want. It's simple, tell yourself you are wanting to stay abstinent and never fearing of telling others you want to stay abstinent. I did it for 23 years! Trust me, it was WORTH IT! It's so nice to know that I can look at my wife and honestly tell her that she is the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I think that the key is to not scare the kids into being abstinent and to teach them the beauty of chastity. The secular world seems to think that the only negative consequences for having sex is getting pregnant or contracting an illness. Being abstinent for those reasons only will not be as likely to get them to wait for marriage. If we teach them what love truly is and how to live it out and that chastity is all about love then it will motivate them not to act out of fear but out of love. Honestly, some people are willing to risk pregnancy and disease becasue they are really searching for love. Deep down everyone is. Everyone truly does want it but many don't understand it or have a fear of it because they are afraid of getting hurt. When we tell people that they should practice abstinence and then at the end tell them "but if you really want to then here's a condom" that's only going to increase the amount of premarital sex, not reduce it because then it's okay as long as they are "safe." In reality safe sex is a joke. There are so many health risks when practicing it and contraceptives actually weaken the immune system so they are more likely to contract an illness. [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=263"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=263[/url] [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=256"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=256[/url] [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=233"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=233[/url] Look under "Methods" [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&cat=Birth%20Control"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...Birth%20Control[/url] What I don't like is how our culture basically thinks that if you don't have sex at a certain point say 25 then you'll as one person put it "explode." Also, chastity is a choice. It's not as if young people are not capable of controlling themselves. They have to be motivated to do it. Automatically presuming that they are going to do it anyway is an insult because it implies that they are animals with no self-control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1783785' date='Feb 17 2009, 06:17 PM']I wish I had parents like you! I don't understand what you mean littleflower. It is realistic to stay a virgin as long as you want. It's simple, tell yourself you are wanting to stay abstinent and never fearing of telling others you want to stay abstinent. I did it for 23 years! Trust me, it was WORTH IT! It's so nice to know that I can look at my wife and honestly tell her that she is the only one. [/quote] LOL Sorry I was being sarcastic from the article and basically repeating what [i]they[/i] themselves said in the interview about how abstinence is unrealistic.I am TOTALLY for purity and chastity and know its VERY realistic but these people make me laugh when they just don't make sense. My post was about how I just don't understand Bristol's logic in the way she is saying it. LOL I didn't explain myself too well in pointing out the irony of it all. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1783785' date='Feb 17 2009, 05:17 PM']It is realistic to stay a virgin as long as you want. It's simple, tell yourself you are wanting to stay abstinent and never fearing of telling others you want to stay abstinent. I did it for 23 years! Trust me, it was WORTH IT! It's so nice to know that I can look at my wife and honestly tell her that she is the only one. [/quote] I also like the idea that my husband can know that when we are together, I'm not comparing him to, or thinking about anyone but him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) that was a good interivew gretta is cool and bristal what can i say (hey now hey now ) you better marry her quick levi !!!!! some of her answers were confusing and I think she said she didnt have a problem with contraception. but the main thing i took from it was WAIT TO HAVE SEX AND BABIES. also props to her for getting the point across that abortion wasnt an option. (i thought she did at least) Edited February 18, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='littleflower+JMJ' post='1783804' date='Feb 17 2009, 06:31 PM']LOL Sorry I was being sarcastic from the article and basically repeating what [i]they[/i] themselves said in the interview about how abstinence is unrealistic.I am TOTALLY for purity and chastity and know its VERY realistic but these people make me laugh when they just don't make sense. My post was about how I just don't understand Bristol's logic in the way she is saying it. LOL I didn't explain myself too well in pointing out the irony of it all. Sorry! [/quote] no problem, I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm sure if they ask a teen who practices chastity they would have a different view point. No one ever said it would be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1783740' date='Feb 17 2009, 10:38 PM']Yes-I don't think it's unattainable but it is difficult and I think it's a tough issue in public schools because abstinence often has religious connotations. Of course there are many perfectly good reasons why abstinence is preferable to "safe sex", though it seems like many of them are moral and people who have different morals, coming from different backgrounds aren't necessarily going to care about issues of morality/ethics. I personally think they should just teach you what you need to know physiologically and leave moral issues to families and communities. (Though herein is another conondrum-what about kids who don't have involved families, etc...). Probably the best way is to teach both-many kids are going to make mistakes and I suppose I'd rather have someone on the pill having sex than someone having sex, getting pregnant and aborting. Though I don't exactly like that idea....-Katie[/quote] There are also health reasons for remaining chaste. They've found that a pregnant woman is more likely to have pre-eclampsia (I think that's the one) if she's had multiple partners or her partner used a condom. So yeah, going along with what you're saying about teaching the physiology of why waiting is a good idea. [quote name='tinytherese' post='1783793' date='Feb 17 2009, 11:24 PM']I think that the key is to not scare the kids into being abstinent and to teach them the beauty of chastity. The secular world seems to think that the only negative consequences for having sex is getting pregnant or contracting an illness. Being abstinent for those reasons only will not be as likely to get them to wait for marriage. If we teach them what love truly is and how to live it out and that chastity is all about love then it will motivate them not to act out of fear but out of love. Honestly, some people are willing to risk pregnancy and disease becasue they are really searching for love. Deep down everyone is. Everyone truly does want it but many don't understand it or have a fear of it because they are afraid of getting hurt. When we tell people that they should practice abstinence and then at the end tell them "but if you really want to then here's a condom" that's only going to increase the amount of premarital sex, not reduce it because then it's okay as long as they are "safe." In reality safe sex is a joke. There are so many health risks when practicing it and contraceptives actually weaken the immune system so they are more likely to contract an illness. [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=263"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=263[/url] [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=256"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=256[/url] [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&entryid=233"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...amp;entryid=233[/url] Look under "Methods" [url="http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php?id=7&cat=Birth%20Control"]http://www.chastity.com/chastity/index.php...Birth%20Control[/url] What I don't like is how our culture basically thinks that if you don't have sex at a certain point say 25 then you'll as one person put it "explode." Also, chastity is a choice. It's not as if young people are not capable of controlling themselves. They have to be motivated to do it. Automatically presuming that they are going to do it anyway is an insult because it implies that they are animals with no self-control.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='jmjtina' post='1784279' date='Feb 18 2009, 01:15 AM']I'm sure if they ask a teen who practices chastity they would have a different view point. No one ever said it would be easy.[/quote] It's easy for me. I must have different crosses in my future. Sorta worried as to what they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Foolish opinions have always been with us. The problem is that technology allows the geniuses and the lazy (me) to get their opinions out quickly and easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1784353' date='Feb 18 2009, 08:45 AM']Foolish opinions have always been with us. The problem is that technology allows the geniuses and the lazy (me) to get their opinions out quickly and easily.[/quote] !!! It's all Bill Gates' fault!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweens8403 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1783526' date='Feb 17 2009, 03:26 PM']anyway i dont think its unrealistic but i do believe safe sex needs to be taught too[/quote] Doesn't safe sex = contraception? Sex is a serious thing which has serious consequences, they should not be taught ways to avoid them. Children should be taught personal responsibility. [quote name='littleflower+JMJ' post='1783757' date='Feb 17 2009, 06:49 PM']I don't get it. Its "unrealistic" to put off sex but its "realistic" to HAVE sex and expect to NOT get pregnant. Hello! [/quote] It's the contraceptive mindset. People now somehow think that they are owed the ability to have sex without worrying about the possibility of having a child. It's not that big of a step from supporting contraception to supporting abortion. It will be interesting to see if little miss palin has such a change in ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 and the last time I checked about "Safe Sex" is that if you and your wife or husband abstain from sex till your marriage you have a 100% chance of not contracting any such sexually transmitted diseases, where the contraceptive way can not give you those odds? I think the education side should be that parents should give the fullness of truth when it comes to sex, and the gift of self to ones vocation. "Most" parents today rely on the School System or some other outlet to teach their children about sex, which ONLY teaches contraceptive sex. Much praise for the mom's and dad's here who teach their children the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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