cmotherofpirl Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 A JUST SYSTEM OF LAWS CAPABLE OF PROTECTING HUMAN LIFE VATICAN CITY, 18 FEB 2009 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office released the following communique at midday today: "Following the general audience the Holy Father briefly greeted Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, together with her entourage. "His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in co-operation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweens8403 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 What was pelosi's reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 She's a democrat. Her response is set permanently to pander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior1027 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1784385' date='Feb 18 2009, 10:57 AM']She's a democrat. Her response is set permanently to pander.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I was thinking about those lightening bolts that hit Rome in that movie "The Core." I'm thinking that is what it would take for her to get it. She had a sit down with her bishop that accomplished nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 +J.M.J.+ actually, i'm pretty sure she never has had the sit down with her archbishop (he invited her 162 days or something ago - according to the American Papist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1784412' date='Feb 18 2009, 12:36 PM']I was thinking about those lightening bolts that hit Rome in that movie "The Core." I'm thinking that is what it would take for her to get it. She had a sit down with her bishop that accomplished nothing.[/quote] There is no way she can now claim to misunderstand the teachings of the catholic church. She has a choice - repent +convert, or leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1784415' date='Feb 18 2009, 11:39 AM']There is no way she can now claim to misunderstand the teachings of the catholic church. She has a choice - repent +convert, or leave.[/quote] Agreed! I mean, holy cow...once the [b]Pope[/b] explains it to you, you have to listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1784467' date='Feb 18 2009, 12:37 PM']Agreed! I mean, holy cow...once the [b]Pope[/b] explains it to you, you have to listen![/quote] C'mon... you know hes not speaking infallibly - there could be error here. Its only his prudential judgment... Hes not her bishop... Its not dogma..... Sorry I just see these responses a lot on phatmass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='rkwright' post='1784470' date='Feb 18 2009, 12:41 PM']C'mon... you know hes not speaking infallibly - there could be error here. Its only his prudential judgment... Hes not her bishop... Its not dogma..... Sorry I just see these responses a lot on phatmass... [/quote] Uh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJames2 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Pope Benedict Rebukes Pelosi over Abortion Vatican City, Feb 18, 2009 (CNA).- House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s photo-op with Pope Benedict XVI turned sour when the Pontiff used the 15-minute meeting to reaffirm the teachings of the Catholic Church on the right to life and the duty to protect the unborn. [b]No photo of Nancy Pelosi and the Pope will be forthcoming,[/b] since the meeting was closed to reporters and photographers. The two met in a small room in the Vatican just after the Pope's weekly public audience. Immediately after the meeting, the Holy See’s press office released a statement saying, "following the general audience the Holy Father briefly greeted Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, together with her entourage." "His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in co-operation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development." A significant number of Catholic and pro-life organizations expressed concern over how Pelosi would use the meeting with Pope Benedict to further her position that it is possible to be Catholic and pro-abortion. Last August, Pelosi was rebuked by several U.S. bishops for attempting to theologically justify her position during an interview with "Meet the Press." On Tuesday, Jon O’Brien, president of "Catholics for Choice," a small, well-funded organization that provides theological arguments to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, told The Hill that today’s visit between the Speaker and Pope Benedict would be an opportunity to highlight that one can be pro-choice and Catholic, and that there are much bigger issues out there to discuss, such as the fate of the poor in the global economic downturn. "That would be a real conversation about choice, instead of this micro-obsession with abortion," O’Brien said. Nevertheless, according to the Holy See's statement, the Pope spent the whole 15 minute conversation talking with Pelosi about the right to life and the need to defend the unborn. A [b]spokesman for Pelosi, who is now headed to Southern Italy as part of her Italian tour, said she would issue a statement later in the day regarding her meeting with the Pope.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The fact that the Holy Father, Vicar of Christ, Vicar of Peter, Bishop of Rome, Servant of the servants of God, Supreme Pastor, His Holiness, The Rock, Supreme Pontiff, Successor of St. Peter, Shepherd of the Universal Church himself took audience with her and not to hear an immediate rejection of her stance on abortion makes my blood boil even more. (regurge from Politcos thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Pope rocks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Lil Red' post='1784413' date='Feb 18 2009, 09:38 AM']+J.M.J.+ actually, i'm pretty sure she never has had the sit down with her archbishop (he invited her 162 days or something ago - according to the American Papist)[/quote] +J.M.J.+ i was wrong [url="http://te-deum.blogspot.com/2009/02/breaking-nancy-pelosi-has-met-with-abp.html"]she met with him on February 8th[/url]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican Wednesday morning, but may not have had a meeting of the minds if the two statements from their offices are any indication. No journalists were at the 15-minute encounter and the Vatican and the speaker's offices have not released any photos. However, according to their statements it appears the pope and the politician attended two different get-togethers. "His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," the Vatican wrote, having released the statement moments before the two met. Several hours later, Pelosi's office gave her take on the tete-a-tete. "It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI today," Pelosi said in a statement released hours after the meeting. "In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show his Holiness a photograph of my family's papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren." The pontiff has a long history of urging Catholic politicians to toe the line on abortion, and has said that those who don't shouldn't take communion. Pelosi supports abortion rights and says she's never been denied communion at her church in San Francisco. In 2002, the Vatican issued a doctrinal note on "The Participation of Catholics in Political Life," which states rather succinctly that politicians who profess to be Catholic have a "grave and clear obligation" to oppose any law that attacks human life. That note was approved by John Paul II but signed by none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He's now the pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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