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[quote name='bonkers' post='1785268' date='Feb 19 2009, 04:31 AM']Of course you would. I'm content with the word 'probably'. When people say things like 'there is a god' or 'there is no god' it can sound a little bit presumptious especially when there is a lack of credible evidence to support that view. It also assumes I am incapabale of thinking for myself and need to be told in no uncertain terms what to believe, which I reject.[/quote]

and you sir are going to be decieved by the antichrist.
dont you realise satan and his angels are literally coming to earth soon.
and if they are going to fool christians who believe,
think of how easily they are going to decieve non believers.
you should really consider taking some time to get into the church christ founded while there is still time.
pretty soon you are going to have more and more false churches who are going to be leading souls to hell because they are going to be working with satan not even knowing it.
CRAZY TIMES ARE COMING SOON.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Guest

[bonkers]

There is probably no satan and the anti-christ. I think these were myths perpetuated by leaders as a means of instilling fear in the public. We've been told for 2000 years the devil and his angels will be coming to earth, 2000 years is a long time and so far no show. Where is he? In 10,000 years time, if Christianity is still around they will still be saying the same thing, that Christ is about to come down and get his vengeance. I think the safest bet is Christ will never come, I'm pretty sure of that.

[Guest]

you are wrong
look at the ufo phenomaneh (sp)
in the last 50 to 60 years
satan is the prince of the air
we live in a supernatural world believe it or not
we are created by a supernatural God
satan is the God of this earth and he has supernatural powers
things will continue to get weirder and weirder
watch

[bonkers]

I don't see things getting weird at all. As time passes, as methods of investigation become increasingly sophisticated, we are realising that everything once thought to have supernatural origins in fact can be explained by natural phenomena. Things like lighting, thunder, the stars, the moon, mental illness, prayer the effects of which can be explained without reference to a supernatural being. I appreciate that you have you are so passionate about your beliefs and that they bring you comfort, but I don't think there is any objective truth of factual merit to your beliefs.

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I know for 100 % that God is real without a doubt.
I have proof.
Godbless

[bonkers]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1785276' date='Feb 19 2009, 04:23 AM']I know for 100 % that God is real without a doubt.
I have proof.
Godbless[/quote]

Really? Please show me, and I'll convert.

[Hilde]

People change their whole view on reality because of bus ads?

[Guest]

[quote name='bonkers' post='1785278' date='Feb 19 2009, 05:31 AM']Really? Please show me, and I'll convert. [/quote]

My aviator,
It is Jesus Christ in the flesh.
Bonkers do you realise the holy spirit is really something given to believers ?
Like not something you just feel and know that it's there,
but something that is actually witnessing to believers.
If you are not opposed to God and would believe in him if he showed himself,
I would dare you to ask the holy spirit into your heart.
Get on your knees in a closet and pray to God for the holy spirit.
Let God know you love him and you would be open to him if He were real.
See what happens.
I doubt you are brave enough to do this.
Because someting WILL happen if you ask with a sincere heart.
Of course once you recieve the holy spirit things will never be the same.
So much more will be expected of you and you wont be able to claim ignorant.
Even right now you've pretty much ruined that by how much you been witnessed to here at
phatmass.
This site is sorta like a blessing or a curse to someone like yourself.
The truth is so transparent here that if you deny it and snub it will come back to haunt you.
We have a jelouse God.
Think of that.
A jelouse God who created the whole universe.
Mabey that's why we are to fear Him.
Peace,
Delivery Boy aka No-Tw

[bonkers]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1785292' date='Feb 19 2009, 06:21 AM']My aviator,
It is Jesus Christ in the flesh.
Bonkers do you realise the holy spirit is really something given to believers ?
Like not something you just feel and know that it's there,
but something that is actually witnessing to believers.
If you are not opposed to God and would believe in him if he showed himself,
I would dare you to ask the holy spirit into your heart.
Get on your knees in a closet and pray to God for the holy spirit.
Let God know you love him and you would be open to him if He were real.
See what happens.
I doubt you are brave enough to do this.
Because someting WILL happen if you ask with a sincere heart.
Of course once you recieve the holy spirit things will never be the same.
So much more will be expected of you and you wont be able to claim ignorant.
Even right now you've pretty much ruined that by how much you been witnessed to here at
phatmass.
This site is sorta like a blessing or a curse to someone like yourself.
The truth is so transparent here that if you deny it and snub it will come back to haunt you.
We have a jelouse God.
Think of that.
A jelouse God who created the whole universe.
Mabey that's why we are to fear Him.
Peace,
Delivery Boy aka No-Tw[/quote]

Dude, I asked for proof of god, and you point me to a wafer in your avatar. I want proper evidence, at least admit you don't have any. It's sad that you try to overcome my skepticism with baseless emotional appeals. Do you think I'm that gullible? Attacking me by claiming I don't have the courage to accept god only proves your own ignorance. I've been there, done that, I know how it feels to be 100% convinced in something. My only objection to that is you can believe in something 100% and still be wrong, though I doubt you are brave enough to face this about yourself. I know YOU think this site harbours a transparent truth so obvious that no one honest could reject it, but that is your perception. Have you considered that your perception might be wrong? You should.. I just see religion here and sheep seeking comfort and community.

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[quote name='bonkers' post='1785347' date='Feb 19 2009, 09:17 AM']Dude, I asked for proof of god, and you point me to a wafer in your avatar. I want proper evidence, at least admit you don't have any. It's sad that you try to overcome my skepticism with baseless emotional appeals. Do you think I'm that gullible? Attacking me by claiming I don't have the courage to accept god only proves your own ignorance. I've been there, done that, I know how it feels to be 100% convinced in something. My only objection to that is you can believe in something 100% and still be wrong, though I doubt you are brave enough to face this about yourself. I know YOU think this site harbours a transparent truth so obvious that no one honest could reject it, but that is your perception. Have you considered that your perception might be wrong? You should.. I just see religion here and sheep seeking comfort and community.[/quote]

That is the proof !!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus Christ flesh n blood in the sacrament of communion.
You have no faith so you can't even comprend this.
Without faith you are not going to be able to see God move in your life.
He will hide himself from people.
And no you cannot believe in something 100 % and be wrong if you're 100 % it's real.
I know God is real. Not because I'm scared he isn't real.
I know God is real through my sin and repentance.
I know God is real through the supernatural.
There is no way anyone could convince me God isnt real.
This has happened and has been builded upon over the last 6 to 7 years though.
Before then I had no clue either way.
You are not really sure but yet leaning towards no God.

So let me ask you this.
15 years from now a ufo pops in our dimension and lands.
It has a person or person(s) on it who appear to be human but yet from the futre.
They tell you they are God and the creator of the universe.
Do you believe them ? Do you follow them because they are from the "future" with technology you cant comprehend ?
If the answer is yes then you just got marked by the beast and will burn in hell forever.
No joke.
100 % truth.
Peace,
Delivery Boy aka No-Tw

Edited February 19, 2009 by Guest

[bonkers]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1785350' date='Feb 19 2009, 09:29 AM']That is the proof !!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus Christ flesh n blood in the sacrament of communion.
You have no faith so you can't even comprend this.
Without faith you are not going to be able to see God move in your life.
He will hide himself from people.
And no you cannot believe in something 100 % and be wrong if you're 100 % it's real.
I know God is real. Not because I'm scared he isn't real.
I know God is real through my sin and repentance.
I know God is real through the supernatural.
There is no way anyone could convince me God isnt real.
This has happened and has been builded upon over the last 6 to 7 years though.
Before then I had no clue either way.
You are not really sure but yet leaning towards no God.

So let me ask you this.
15 years from now a ufo pops in our dimension and lands.
It has a person or person(s) on it who appear to be human but yet from the futre.
They tell you they are God and the creator of the universe.
Do you believe them ? Do you follow them because they are from the "future" with technology you cant comprehend ?
If the answer is yes then you just got marked by the beast and will burn in hell forever.
No joke.
100 % truth.
Peace,
Delivery Boy aka No-Tw[/quote]

Dude, if that's your proof, I'm afraid you're way off the mark. It would be the equivalent of me holding up a twinkie and proclaiming it is irrefutable proof of god's non existence. Think about the absurdity of what you're saying, remember I'm a non-believer and don't believe in the same things you do, so this proof your claiming is only proof to you, whereas to me it's just a wafer. I'm pretty sure if you conduct scientific analysis of the wafer you would find no evidence of human flesh or blood in it, so it is not proof in any credible domain except in your own mind, which I can confidently say is not credible, at least not for me.

Regarding your conviction of god I'm glad you believe so but like I said the human mind is fragile and we seem conditioned to believing in things reglardless of whether they are true or not. Some people are 100% convinced through their own experiences and investigation that man did not land on the moon, of the holocaust did not happen, or aliens did really crash a spacecraft at roswell, some people just need ssomething to believe in and the mind has a clever way of making it seem plausible. As long as it brings you comfort and fulfills any emotional needs you have I don't see the harm as long as it doesn't harm other people.

As for your question if someone arrived from the future claiming to be god I would be natrually skeptical of his/her claims, andy require a darn good explanation and justification as to why he/she should be called god. But of course, this hypothetical will likely never ever happen anyway so there's no point concerning myself with it.

[Nihil Obstat]

To be fair, Delivery Boy, your proof of God is begging the question.

Back to the wording of the ads...
The fact that they said "probably" rather than "is" is actually a clever manipulation of words to continue to spread the rather misleading assertation that all atheists are 100% rational 100% of the time and rely on quantifiable scientific evidence, etc, etc.
When I've thought about it, I think it's actually fairly obvious. At least to me.
Science when properly understood will not make blanket statements with 100% certainty. By its own nature it's not possible. That's what the wording in the ad reflects.
It's quite sneaky.

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[quote name='bonkers' post='1785359' date='Feb 19 2009, 09:55 AM']As for your question if someone arrived from the future claiming to be god I would be natrually skeptical of his/her claims, andy require a darn good explanation and justification as to why he/she should be called god. But of course, this hypothetical will likely never ever happen anyway so there's no point concerning myself with it. [/quote]


And that's why you an atheist would be decieved by the antichrist because the antichrist is going to have a GREAT EXPLANATION AND JUSTIFCATION AS TO WHY HE OR SHE IS GOD.

Do you not understand the antichrist is going to make fire come down from heaven ? Going to perform so many signs and wonders that even elect christians will be decieved. (christains who reject the catholic church)

So by your own admission bonkers you will be decieved because you dont have the seal of the holy spirit on you. So when the antichrist and his angels perfom all these sign and wonders you will follow just like a little lost puppy. Good luck with that.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='bonkers' post='1785359' date='Feb 19 2009, 07:55 AM']I'm pretty sure if you conduct scientific analysis of the wafer you would find no evidence of human flesh or blood in it[/quote]

Not in most cases, no. But it has happened. Cases occur where this "wafer" appears in flesh and blood form and its tested and proven to contain real human flesh, and if I'm not mistaken, the same blood type in all the cases (not particularly certain on this last point).

Edited February 20, 2009 by goldenchild17

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[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1785921' date='Feb 19 2009, 10:42 PM']Not in most cases, no. But it has happened. Cases occur where this "wafer" appears in flesh and blood form and its tested and proven to contain real human flesh, and if I'm not mistaken, the same blood type in all the cases (not particularly certain on this last point).[/quote]

that's crazy bro