Saint Therese Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [url="http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-on-vehicle/article/3347038"]Article[/url]? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='Saint Therese' post='1786748' date='Feb 20 2009, 07:34 PM'][url="http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-pulls-man-over-for-anti-obama-sign-on-vehicle/article/3347038"]Article[/url]?[/quote] Sounds to me like one individual made a mistake, and then they checked up just to be safe. The check by the Secret Service seems like overkill, but the original incidend just seems like a mistake that got sorted out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I wonder if the Secret Service actions had anything to do with the fact Oklahoma voted for McCain. If they are worried about hate groups, Oklahoma is definitely a good place to start looking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 Were they so concerned about "hate groups" when Bush was being bashed to an unbelievable degree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1786764' date='Feb 20 2009, 09:53 PM']I wonder if the Secret Service actions had anything to do with the fact Oklahoma voted for McCain. If they are worried about hate groups, Oklahoma is definitely a good place to start looking for them.[/quote] I really doubt it. Despite the fact that Timothy McVeigh lived there long enough to plan and execute the Oklahoma City Bombings, I don't think there's anything in the water that makes Oklahoma'ns more prone to hatred. Boston, on the other hand... [quote name='Saint Therese' post='1786781' date='Feb 20 2009, 10:06 PM']Were they so concerned about "hate groups" when Bush was being bashed to an unbelievable degree?[/quote] Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='kujo' post='1786871' date='Feb 20 2009, 09:05 PM']I really doubt it. Despite the fact that Timothy McVeigh lived there long enough to plan and execute the Oklahoma City Bombings, I don't think there's anything in the water that makes Oklahoma'ns more prone to hatred.[/quote] Oklahoman's aren't more prone to hatred, at least I'm not, but I could use up all my fingers and toes, and still not name off all the white supremacist groups I had to deal with there. Tim McVey didn't spend much time in Oklahoma except when he was at Elohim City. Lots of guys train there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well, the bumper sticker was in poor taste...but still, the secret service did do an "overkill" as Nihil Obstat stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I think it does show how concerned the SS are about him having someone take a shot at him. I wonder if there has been some kind of thing come through the pipeline to local police, or if this cop was just being a zealot. He may have called the SS only because he realized that he was going to be in trouble, and was trying to mitigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Might I interject the possibility that Obama possesses one slightly different, but highly noticeable characteristic that sets him apart from his predecessors? No, I'm not referring to his love of basketball, or the fact that Ludacris wrote a song about him--though they are probably related to this characteristic. The fact is that Obama is African-American (well, at least [i]half[/i]...but close enough). This makes him a target, maybe more so than he already would be. His election is unprecedented, for both good and bad reasons. One of those reasons is that the Secret Service has probably never had to deal with the very-real possibility that the KKK (or other people with that mindset) might want to take a shot at this president. Sure, you could argue that Kennedy had to deal with the same sort of stuff for being a Catholic (and, if you're a conspiracy theorist, you couldn't probably throw in the possibility that the mob had a hit out on him). But the fact remains that Obama being president is going to piss people off for reasons other than his (deplorable) political and/or social views; rather, there is still a segment of society that finds it wholly unacceptable to have an African American president. That's just a fact. And it's something that the Secret Service has never had to deal before. So yeah, this cop overreacted, as did the SS. Personally, I'd like the SS to be overly-cautious because they are tasked with protecting the president. It's better safe than sorry. Be that as it may, I'd say there's a learning curve here. And both the cop and the SS seem to have apologized for this incident, and the dude seems to have reconciled the fact that it was a mistake. We should just move on and hope it doesn't happen again. Edited February 21, 2009 by kujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='kujo' post='1787017' date='Feb 21 2009, 12:34 AM']? No, I'm not referring to his love of basketball, or the fact that Ludacris wrote a song about him--though they are probably related to this characteristic.[/quote] ludacris took a real low blow at a war hero on that song. Godbless John Mccain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 luda raps "McCain doesn't belong in "any chair unless he's paralyzed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I've said repeatedly that I wouldn't want to be on his Secret Service team. He was in Ottawa for 6 hours this week, and just the Canadian security insisted on by the SS cost a couple of million dollars. I think they are terrified of what will happened with even a failed attempt. Someone joked on the news that if Stephen Harper went to visit in DC, the security would cost a buck in a half. Guess that means he isn't worth the cost of a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1787021' date='Feb 21 2009, 12:40 AM']ludacris took a real low blow at a war hero on that song. Godbless John Mccain[/quote] Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1787060' date='Feb 20 2009, 11:08 PM']I've said repeatedly that I wouldn't want to be on his Secret Service team. He was in Ottawa for 6 hours this week, and just the Canadian security insisted on by the SS cost a couple of million dollars. I think they are terrified of what will happened with even a failed attempt. Someone joked on the news that if Stephen Harper went to visit in DC, the security would cost a buck in a half. Guess that means he isn't worth the cost of a bullet.[/quote] I was going to mention it earlier, but there was just no reason to... ...buy my somewhat distant cousin was part of the tactical unit that was set to jump out of the armoured van if anything happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1787479' date='Feb 21 2009, 07:32 PM']I was going to mention it earlier, but there was just no reason to... ...buy my somewhat distant cousin was part of the tactical unit that was set to jump out of the armoured van if anything happened.[/quote] My great, great Uncle's son was part of Tom Cruise's security in Colorado or wherever. I think he also helped start a few extream sports. Like cliff diving or something. He's also a well known womanizer of the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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