homeschoolmom Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Why are we doing this? Because our economy is doing so well right now that we have spare billions to spend overseas. We cannot spend fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Does anyone stop and ask themselves where are we getting all this money when the whole world is in a recession of some sorts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It should be Israel's responsibility to rebuild Gaza... they're the ones that demolished it, right? you brerak it, you bought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1790414' date='Feb 24 2009, 03:03 PM']It should be Israel's responsibility to rebuild Gaza... they're the ones that demolished it, right? you brerak it, you bought it[/quote] Demolished it by defending themselves against rocket attacks. Let the Palestinians rebuild it themselves, since it was their bright idea to attack Israel without provocation in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1790425' date='Feb 24 2009, 03:18 PM']Demolished it by defending themselves against rocket attacks. Let the Palestinians rebuild it themselves, since it was their bright idea to attack Israel without provocation in the first place.[/quote] How many rockets were fired by Hamas? How big were they? How many Israelis were killed by them? Now, compare that to Israel's response... Edited February 24, 2009 by kujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 before there becomes a huge debate remember that both are wrong. debating which is less evil is not what we should be arguing. Both killed innocent people and we need to find ways to resolve this jointly, but not blaming one side of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1790445' date='Feb 24 2009, 03:33 PM']before there becomes a huge debate remember that both are wrong. debating which is less evil is not what we should be arguing. Both killed innocent people and we need to find ways to resolve this jointly, but not blaming one side of the other.[/quote] Very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Who rebuilt buildings after our Revolutionary War, or Civil War? We did. We also received the pride that goes along with it. Everytime we intervene in someone else's internal conflict, we rob them of their George Washington's and Patrick Henry's. If we had stayed out of Iraq, the various factions would have eventually had to work together to get rid of Sadam, setting the alliances that could be running their country right now. If we go in and rebuild Gaza, it will be our buildings, not theirs. If they have to work together to kick Hamas out, and to rebuild things, then things will belong to the people. As to our aid to Israel, our government doesn't have any business sending aid money to any country that has a better financial situation than the US does. We of course should send our personal donations to rebuild any of our churches that were damaged on either side of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1790445' date='Feb 24 2009, 03:33 PM']before there becomes a huge debate remember that both are wrong. debating which is less evil is not what we should be arguing. Both killed innocent people and we need to find ways to resolve this jointly, but not blaming one side of the other.[/quote] You rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1790445' date='Feb 24 2009, 03:33 PM']before there becomes a huge debate remember that both are wrong. debating which is less evil is not what we should be arguing. Both killed innocent people and we need to find ways to resolve this jointly, but not blaming one side of the other.[/quote] Hamas randomly fires rockets into Israel on a daily basis for several years. Israel did its best NOT to hit civilians even though Hamas did their best to make sure the innocent died. Israel even called peoples cell phones to warn them they were going to attack. So a blanket statement that both side killed the innocent does not do justice to the truth. Hamas killed the innocent on purpose, Israel by accident. BIG difference and NOT equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1790626' date='Feb 24 2009, 05:55 PM']Hamas randomly fires rockets into Israel on a daily basis for several years. Israel did its best NOT to hit civilians even though Hamas did their best to make sure the innocent died. Israel even called peoples cell phones to warn them they were going to attack. So a blanket statement that both side killed the innocent does not do justice to the truth. Hamas killed the innocent on purpose, Israel by accident. BIG difference and NOT equivalent.[/quote] That can be equated to what we did to the Japanese after they attacked us in WWII we warned them time and time again that we were going to do something VERY bad like drop nuclear bombs on them. We still killed human life. They were innocent. Murder is murder. For Japan, It took both sides to help re-build the country, even the country who destroyed those cities. Both sides in the Gaza have arguments against one another, that's why there's nothing be settled. I was trying to say both have done evil things, and saying one is "less evil" is still evil when dealing with killing human beings. I'm not for or against one side or the other, I'm just tired of people killing people that's all. I know I'm setting my expectations pretty high, but Jesus did set the bar pretty high in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1790626' date='Feb 24 2009, 06:55 PM']Hamas randomly fires rockets into Israel on a daily basis for several years. Israel did its best NOT to hit civilians even though Hamas did their best to make sure the innocent died.[/quote] They claimed the same thing in 2006 with regards to Hezbollah. [url="http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2007/09/05/why-they-died-0"]http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2007/09/05/why-they-died-0[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm wondering the same thing: "why?" When our government jumps to intervene, I always look at it assuming that our government wants people dependent on it. "The borrower is slave to the lender." If [i]we[/i] go in and rebuild [i]their[/i] home, they owe our government. I'm shrugging and figuring that our government wants to pull their strings. Our government already did the same thing to Israel. They cannot do anything without asking our government for permission first--including defend itself. So the Federal Government would be able to have pull on both sides. This is just me thinking out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1791135' date='Feb 25 2009, 01:45 AM']I'm wondering the same thing: "why?" When our government jumps to intervene, I always look at it assuming that our government wants people dependent on it. "The borrower is slave to the lender." If [i]we[/i] go in and rebuild [i]their[/i] home, they owe our government. I'm shrugging and figuring that our government wants to pull their strings. Our government already did the same thing to Israel. They cannot do anything without asking our government for permission first--including defend itself. So the Federal Government would be able to have pull on both sides. This is just me thinking out loud.[/quote] I see where your comming from, but the Saudi's have pledged more than us and they didn't help pay for the Israeli bombs that destroyed their city, so I don't know why they would feel particularly indebted to us. I do agree that any smaller government should look very carefully whenever a larger power wants to give them money. I mean my father always said "there's no such thing as a free meal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) or "no such thing as a free lunch" prolly should have paid more attention Also, I know he didn't invent that Edited February 25, 2009 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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