havok579257 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1790924' date='Feb 24 2009, 09:25 PM']I don't think I'd let my kid do that. idk what to think of that.[/quote] you won't grant your child their dying request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1790996' date='Feb 24 2009, 10:53 PM']you won't grant your child their dying request?[/quote] Well I can see what missionseeker is saying! I mean I don't know I have never had a child like that so I don't know though I would hope that I would be cautious but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='princessgianna' post='1791016' date='Feb 24 2009, 11:04 PM']Well I can see what missionseeker is saying! I mean I don't know I have never had a child like that so I don't know though I would hope that I would be cautious but I don't know.[/quote] She wanted to have a fake wedding that said she would remain friends forver with her best friend. She wanted the ceremony. She wanted to experience what every girl dreams off. She want to experience that before she dies. How is this wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I guess it's not then! Since you have a better explanation to why it is fine then my lack of explanation of i don't know. I concede until other evidence is brought forth to why it may not be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1790996' date='Feb 24 2009, 10:53 PM']you won't grant your child their dying request?[/quote] If that was it, I'm not sure. I'm not parent, and I've never been in that position. Please God I won't be in that position. I would hope to be able to grant my child's wish. But I don't think that that is an age appropriate wish. I don't know that I'd let a child 'marry' at that age. Marriage is more than a wish or a desire. It's a conscious INFORMED choice. I know she is supposed to die soon, but I don't think a ceremony that's a type of 'mock' wedding ceremony is an appropriate thing to grant a child. What if one (or both) do pull through. Miracles happen. I would hope that I could accept what God asks of me. But I would also hope that I never lost faith in God's ability to heal. I would not want my child to have to deal with being "married" at 9. What does that mean? What type of obligation is that? I know it is a friendship ceremony thing. But I do not think I would grant my child that wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) the other evidence has been brought up! Edited February 25, 2009 by princessgianna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1791051' date='Feb 24 2009, 11:26 PM']If that was it, I'm not sure. I'm not parent, and I've never been in that position. Please God I won't be in that position. I would hope to be able to grant my child's wish. But I don't think that that is an age appropriate wish. I don't know that I'd let a child 'marry' at that age. Marriage is more than a wish or a desire. It's a conscious INFORMED choice. I know she is supposed to die soon, but I don't think a ceremony that's a type of 'mock' wedding ceremony is an appropriate thing to grant a child. What if one (or both) do pull through. Miracles happen. I would hope that I could accept what God asks of me. But I would also hope that I never lost faith in God's ability to heal. I would not want my child to have to deal with being "married" at 9. What does that mean? What type of obligation is that? I know it is a friendship ceremony thing. But I do not think I would grant my child that wish.[/quote] She didn't MARRY anyone. She just went through the ceremony becuase she wanted to experience what it would be like. The priest just had them agree to stay friends for life. He never married them. It was a play wedding inside a church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1791057' date='Feb 24 2009, 11:30 PM']She didn't MARRY anyone. She just went through the ceremony becuase she wanted to experience what it would be like. The priest just had them agree to stay friends for life. He never married them. It was a play wedding inside a church.[/quote] EXACTLY! It's not real. I would not grant her that wish. A wedding is something soooo sacred that I could not. To go through a ceremony that similar to a wedding... idk. I would not grant my daughter that wish. Nine year olds do not need to experience what a wedding would be like. Healthy nine year olds do not. As tragic as it is that she is dying I just cannot think that that is a good wish to grant my nine year old. Nine year olds do not think like adults. They love simply and purely. To them this is a wedding, and it cannot BE a wedding. So no, I would not grant my child that wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) [quote name='missionseeker' post='1791072' date='Feb 24 2009, 11:40 PM']EXACTLY! It's not real. I would not grant her that wish. A wedding is something soooo sacred that I could not. To go through a ceremony that similar to a wedding... idk. I would not grant my daughter that wish. Nine year olds do not need to experience what a wedding would be like. Healthy nine year olds do not. As tragic as it is that she is dying I just cannot think that that is a good wish to grant my nine year old. Nine year olds do not think like adults. They love simply and purely. To them this is a wedding, and it cannot BE a wedding. So no, I would not grant my child that wish.[/quote] This is not a wedding to a 9 year old and she knows it. 9 year olds are really smart then adults give them credit for. Heck, children in general are way smarter than parents give them credit for. idk... to not grant your dying child, one who will die in 4 weeks , their dying wish of having a play wedding seems oftly cruel to me. She just wanted to dress up as a bride for the day and experience something she will never have the possibility of experiencing in her lifetime. She had a pretend wedding, nothing more. It was not offical, she is not offically married and she doesn't think she is. She just got to be in a wedding dress for a day. The same thing as many girls do when their younger playing dress up pretending to get married. To tell youyr child, honey, I know this is the one thing you want before you die but nope, you ain't getting it seems very cruel. Edited February 25, 2009 by havok579257 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='havok579257' post='1791086' date='Feb 24 2009, 11:48 PM']This is not a wedding to a 9 year old and she knows it. 9 year olds are really smart then adults give them credit for. Heck, children in general are way smarter than parents give them credit for. idk... to not grant your dying child, one who will die in 4 weeks , their dying wish of having a play wedding seems oftly cruel to me. She just wanted to dress up as a bride for the day and experience something she will never have the possibility of experiencing in her lifetime. She had a pretend wedding, nothing more. It was not offical, she is not offically married and she doesn't think she is. She just got to be in a wedding dress for a day. The same thing as many girls do when their younger playing dress up pretending to get married. To tell youyr child, honey, I know this is the one thing you want before you die but nope, you ain't getting it seems very cruel.[/quote] I didn't say they weren't smart. I said they think differently. Love simply. I know that I am sometimes amazed by what comes out of my brothers' moths (11, 10, and 6). I know it seems cruel. But following your conscience is never easy. I do not think that I could in good conscience grant my child that wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1791051' date='Feb 25 2009, 12:26 AM']I know it is a friendship ceremony thing. But I do not think I would grant my child that wish.[/quote] I'm sorry, but that's pretty darn cold just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1791072' date='Feb 25 2009, 12:40 AM']EXACTLY! It's not real. I would not grant her that wish. A wedding is something soooo sacred that I could not. To go through a ceremony that similar to a wedding... idk. I would not grant my daughter that wish. Nine year olds do not need to experience what a wedding would be like. Healthy nine year olds do not. As tragic as it is that she is dying I just cannot think that that is a good wish to grant my nine year old. Nine year olds do not think like adults. They love simply and purely. To them this is a wedding, and it cannot BE a wedding. So no, I would not grant my child that wish.[/quote] Sorry honey, mommy isin't comftorable with you having something that looks something like a wedding. I guess you can just play with your dolls and cry while you wait for the cancer to finish ravaging your little body." Nine year olds do not need to experience it becase they will be able to at some future data. They will be able to have a real wedding, not just experience getting to wear a pretty dress like the beautiful women on tv while everyone watches and promise to be friends forever. You must understand how cruel this seems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Get over yourselves. I'm with Mission about this. These kids view weddings as something romantic, something to celebrate "them" before they die. The girl wants to wear a dress It's an "it's about me" moment. The kids probably want assurance of something. Their eternal bliss will be in heaven. They need not to experience a "wedding" on earth to be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1791096' date='Feb 25 2009, 12:57 AM']I do not think that I could in good conscience grant my child that wish.[/quote] Well I'm glad you will have a clear conscience when you break your dying child's heart. I mean goodness, if you think it's a sin go to confession afterwords. I mean this just seems selfish. Even if you are uncomftorable with it you will have years and years to come to terms with it and go to confession, your child will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1791118' date='Feb 25 2009, 01:28 AM']Get over yourselves. I'm with Mission about this. These kids view weddings as something romantic, something to celebrate "them" before they die. The girl wants to wear a dress It's an "it's about me" moment. The kids probably want assurance of something. Their eternal bliss will be in heaven. They need not to experience a "wedding" on earth to be complete.[/quote] Unless there is no heaven. You have no proof that their motives are selfish, lots of little girls just dream of their wedding day, the day they get true love, get to be like their mommies whtever. Yes it is sentimental but she is nine and she's going to be dead in a few weeks. I mean, "The girl wants to wear a dress " how can you be so caustic? This isin't a kid throwing a tantrum because she can't get a new doll, it's a final dying wish. I just don't understand the cold heartedness. I mean I don't know how much experience you have with dying or sevearly impaired children but the generally arn't the most selfish lot, they do often have a great yearning to do normal things, to be able to experience just everyday activities. I remember a kid name Jeremy who just wanted to throw a football around, it was like the greatest thing in the world for him, and he'd wai for months for someone to come by who would do it with him, all he wanted was to experience normal human things and be a normal kid for a few minutes, even if just walkig a few yards left him breathless and panting. Edited February 25, 2009 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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