Nihil Obstat Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1796046' date='Mar 3 2009, 12:45 AM']No[/quote] So then would you believe that it is possible for some (possibly intangible) good to come out of a baby having trisomy 18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1796048' date='Mar 3 2009, 02:46 AM']So then would you believe that it is possible for some (possibly intangible) good to come out of a baby having trisomy 18?[/quote] Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1796051' date='Mar 3 2009, 12:49 AM']Sure.[/quote] I'm sure you place qualifications on that, but if you're at least willing to accept it we have somewhere to work from. Also it's almost midnight....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1796056' date='Mar 3 2009, 02:53 AM']I'm sure you place qualifications on that, but if you're at least willing to accept it we have somewhere to work from. Also it's almost midnight....... [/quote] 2:00AM hee, and I need to get some sleep. I'll prolly be off phatmass for the rest of this week though, just a ton of stuff before [size=7] SPRING BREAK![/size] I'll try to remember this though, or I might get a chance to continue some this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1795988' date='Mar 3 2009, 02:09 AM']Life doesn't do anything, genetics does cause certian events to happen. We can either pretend that a little innocent baby being struck down by a genetic defect is part of some mysterious overarching purpose that we little mortals simply cannot see and be angry at these people for advising the mother to end the pregnancy, or we can admit that through billions of years of natural selection our otherwise dynamic and fascinating genetic pool had some up wth some real monstors and sometimes the kindest thing to do is end a doomed pregnancy before the mother get's even more heart broken or the child suffers more than necessary.[/quote] How can they get get anymore heartbroken then when they recieved this diagnosis? How is the child suffering? So you think it would be easier or kinder to have the baby sliced and diced? Do you really think that would ease anybody's pain? ever? A parents responsibilty to a child doesn't mysteriously disappear when a MD says is a bad outcome. How does it become ok to slice and dice a child because the outcome isn't what anybody wanted? You still have a responsibility to your CHILD until they die, preferably in your arms. You don't get to kill your children to ease anybodys pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) A baby will most likely die whent hey have Trisomy 18, this is natures way of so called "culling" the gene pool on its own. I think that nature is cruel enough without us "helping it along". Anyone who knows anything about human gestation in the womb would know this fact. Early miscarriages happen sometimes before a woman is pregnant, almost always due to a chromosomal abnormality. I say this because again, nature takes care of those kinds of things. There is little or no risk to a mother who carries a Trisomy 18 baby when her body NATURALLY expulses the little one because the little one has died already. This woman was cheated out of holding her dead child after an early birth. You see, this baby was already picked by nature for an early death. Abortion was not needed. Edited March 3, 2009 by Luthien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Punk Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1795964' date='Mar 3 2009, 01:37 AM']No one denies that it's a hard, trying thing to go through. Nobody's saying it should be easy on the parents.[/quote] ...So was the cross! [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1795964' date='Mar 3 2009, 01:37 AM']Life does weird things.[/quote] It does, it also goes both ways! How often have you heard of a child having some sort of syndrome in the womb, has already overcome it by the time he/she is born! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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