Palin Appoints Pro-planned Parenthood Judge

[Hassan]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1799735' date='Mar 7 2009, 01:28 PM']What part of politician do people not understand?

A man may smile and smile, but be a villain.[/quote]





Except Obama


I guess the popular right's love afair with Palin is as puzzeling to me as the popular left's messianic view of Obama.

It's all very odd

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1798851' date='Mar 6 2009, 09:59 AM'][url="http://www.adn.com/news/government/story/711378.html"]Sarah Palin has appointed to the Alaska Supreme Court, a judge who served on the Planned Parenthood board in the 90's..[/url][/quote]

Yet again, I am happy that I am no longer a supporter of the Republicrat Party. It's a sham and a game and a lie--and ultimately the same single party. Goodness they pisss me off.

[Nihil Obstat]

Let's be fair though, it wouldn't be right to say that every single politician is dishonest. I'm sure a great many are; they prove it often enough, but I don't think it's ok to just assume that they're liars out of hand.
Sure, don't trust them. They haven't earned your trust, but hating politicians isn't going to do much good. Better to look at one or two that are actually honest and good people. I'm sure they're out there somewhere.

Somewhere...

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='picchick' post='1799797' date='Mar 7 2009, 03:32 PM']I have not seen ONE politician who is different. Republican, Democrat, Socialist whatever. I do not trust any of them.[/quote]

Republicans and Democrats... it becomes more and more clear that they are the same party.

[quote name='mortify' post='1799702' date='Mar 7 2009, 12:07 PM']Perhaps keeping abortion an issue suits the Republican cause.[/quote]

This is something that I have been thinking. Now, what good what it do to let everyone know that this has, in reality, become a single party state? They would lose at least half of the grass-roots support groups.

But if they keep all the hot-button issues on the table, and if they keep the two-party charade going, they get the continued financing and the passionate support of the "masses" on both sides of every issue.

When the Republicans had control of Congress and the White House, Ron Paul and a few others authored some massive pro-life legislation that never took off--and I think this is why. The entire party could have gotten behind it, they had the perfect opportunity. This is also why I think that FOCA will not go through.

[princessgianna]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1799875' date='Mar 7 2009, 04:36 PM']......................

Somewhere...[/quote]

...in La La land!

[Nihil Obstat]

Maybe political culture in Canada is significantly different from the US.

Many politicians appear more honest because they are obligated to vote according to party line, and have little in the way of executive decision making power.

The executive branch is difficult to distinguish from the legislative branch, but at the same time there is little the executive can do without it first passing through legislative. In a majority government this means debate for a while, but it ultimately passes, while in a minority, it depends on which opposition parties can be convinced to vote in favour.

So in the end, it's exceedingly rare for a politician to do something that seems like an outright betrayal, besides crossing the floor. The party as a whole can fail you, but if you support the party, in general terms you're not going to have a problem with individual MPs.

As an aside, I'm going to a Theology on Tap thing tomorrow after church where a conservative Catholic MP will be speaking....

[Lounge Daddy]

The problem in the U.S. is that many people haven't realized that we are living in a single party State. But more people are becoming more aware of this.

They (being the "republicrat party") continue to pander to either extreme, only to get the money and support from interest groups on either end. Thus, the Republican candidates promise to fight to end abortion in the U.S., and Democrats promise to end war. But they need to not resolve these issues -- they needs these issues to remain politically hot issues.

But most voters have no idea that the the separate parties are not all that separate. But information is a lot more available than it was back in the 80s and 90s, and we are able to find things out faster than we could in the recent past. So now we know that "pro-life" Palin appointed a PP judge. We know that "hard core conservative" Steele slammed Rush Limbaugh. We know that the "anti-earmark" GOP is actually responsible for 40% of the earmarks.

We also know that many of the same financiers of the Democrats are also financing Republicans. Including ACORN, George Soros, and Teresa Kerry, and others. Why? Because they are the same party. It's a huge scam.

Maybe the problem that other single-party States had was that they let everyone know.

[dauntingknight]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1799228' date='Mar 6 2009, 07:12 PM']I suppose it's all on me to run for MP someday.

You'll all support me, right?
...and the Canadians will vote for me, right?[/quote]
Military police, right?


Who wants to start an Catholecret party? so then we can to good o'l

Any takers?

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='mortify' post='1799702' date='Mar 7 2009, 10:07 AM']Perhaps keeping abortion an issue suits the Republican cause.[/quote]

I would think so. Seems that's the only thing keeping them in the game today, not that it's really doing them any good.

That said, I'm not even mildly surprised.

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='sweens8403' post='1799323' date='Mar 6 2009, 10:52 PM']Everybody says there's no room for idealism in politics. Well why not? Why does there have to be wheeling/dealing? Why can't people just stick to their principles no matter if its inconvenient or not? Why can't they just talk straight with us on the campaign trail instead of giving eloquent speeches that don't do much more than stir up the ignorant masses. The mentality of politicians just escapes me.[/quote]

At least until our society changes in a way that would make it possible, any politician who is like this simply won't get elected. If you alienate too many people, you lose too many votes. For example, politicians have no problem identifying with Christianity because it wins a lot more votes than it loses; but if that were not the case, we would probably see more politicians who didn't bother with playing the Christian card.

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1799941' date='Mar 7 2009, 09:30 PM']Republicans and Democrats... it becomes more and more clear that they are the same party.[/quote]

It's clear from the decisions Obama is making to reverse some of Bush's pro-life policies that this is not true. They are distinct and stand for different philosophies, but they are also politicians with their own ambitions to fulfill. Self-sacrifice may earn you honor by future generations, but self-preservation gets you elected.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1801329' date='Mar 9 2009, 12:43 PM']It's clear from the decisions Obama is making to reverse some of Bush's pro-life policies that this is not true. They are distinct and stand for different philosophies, but they are also politicians with their own ambitions to fulfill. Self-sacrifice may earn you honor by future generations, but self-preservation gets you elected.[/quote]

I also said they need to keep these issues in play. If they actually solved any hot button issue, they would lose the support and the activists on either end, and the constant in-flow of money.

As it is, our Government has relatively low support. And understandably so. Imagine if the American Political Class let on that the the two separate political parties were not all that separate. Or imagine if many of these hot-button issues would be resolved one way or another. Washington would lose a lot of support, and a lot of financing from grass-roots organisations.

So these issues will be pushed one direction and then the other direction, but never actually resolved. It's a nice racket the Republicrats have set up.

The only monopolies come from The State.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Luthien' post='1799107' date='Mar 6 2009, 06:26 PM']I don't see how it isnt. Despite his sarcasm, Louisville makes a good point, to put all this trust that politicians are actually going to act in the best interest of the people is a tad naive. You can be surprised, but Im not.[/quote]

I would be surprised if Sam Brownback did something on the same level as Palin.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
from what i understand, she had her choice of two people to pick. perhaps she chose the lesser of two evils, or chose the one that she wouldn't have to fight to get into their office. it's sad that everyone here (seems) to be jumping to conclusions.

here's a link:
[url="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/06/heartache-palin-appoints-former-planned-parenthood-board-member-to-supreme-court/"]http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/06/hear...-supreme-court/[/url]
[quote]Palin has a month and a half to choose the next member of Alaska’s State Supreme Court. The problem is the two choices she has to pick from are justices who don’t align with her conservative views. Alaska’s judges are selected using the Missouri Plan, which combines election and appointment in choosing the judge. The Alaska Judicial Council selects the nominees from which the governor can then make an appointment. A total of six judges applied, but only two were elected by the Judicial Council, Eric Smith, considered very liberal, and Morgan Christen, who is viewed as more of a moderate.[/quote]

here's another informative link:
[url="http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/03/governor-palin-fills-supreme-court.html"]http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/03...reme-court.html[/url]

[Luthien]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1801818' date='Mar 9 2009, 08:19 PM']I would be surprised if Sam Brownback did something on the same level as Palin.[/quote]


It may not be on the same level, but I think it's worth mentioning.

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