Hassan Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1801899' date='Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM']But Obama is pandering to these minions of death because of the money they provided to him.[/quote] You know he might actually have a few beleifs in line with the democratic party without being paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1801899' date='Mar 9 2009, 07:26 PM']But Obama is pandering to these minions of death because of the money they provided to him.[/quote] True. And that's the same reason many pro-life politicians pander to the minions on the right -- as sad as that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1802053' date='Mar 9 2009, 08:22 PM']You know he might actually have a few beleifs in line with the democratic party without being paid for it.[/quote] His beliefs are in line with his mentors of 2 decades. His policies are wind mills that turn towards the money and power he craves. Just remember when debating with me, that I am a pro-life democrat, and that many of the party's social justice concerns are mine as well, obviously the ones that are in line with the Church's social justice teachings. I just dislike how politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, and prefer to know who is pulling their strings, and for what reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1802067' date='Mar 9 2009, 09:35 PM']His beliefs are in line with his mentors of 2 decades. His policies are wind mills that turn towards the money and power he craves. Just remember when debating with me, that I am a pro-life democrat, and that many of the party's social justice concerns are mine as well, obviously the ones that are in line with the Church's social justice teachings. I just dislike how politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, and prefer to know who is pulling their strings, and for what reason.[/quote] I know you are a pro-life democrat. It just seems like what get's lost in these thread is the fact that he is a many with real political beleifs. I have a cynical view of Obama, or anyone who seeks power, as well. I just wanted to point out thar simply because the special interest groups in the democratic party support this does not mean he does not genuinly do so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote]Like Mr Bush, President Obama has profound Christian beliefs but he has defined the issue in terms of integrity.[/quote] Thats what the BBC said. Oh how quickly one can lose credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hassan' post='1802069' date='Mar 9 2009, 09:37 PM']I have a cynical view of Obama, or anyone who seeks power, as well.[/quote] Amen, ba-rother! [quote name='Hassan' post='1802069' date='Mar 9 2009, 09:37 PM']I just wanted to point out thar simply because the special interest groups in the democratic party support this does not mean he does not genuinly do so as well.[/quote] People can can hold a different, and even a wrong position, without being paid for it? Edited March 10, 2009 by Lounge Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1802132' date='Mar 9 2009, 10:34 PM']Amen, ba-rother![/quote] My Catholic School History Teachers taught me a lot. I mean he was a democrat but most of my libertarian tendencies I received from him. He asked us one day why a man would quit a job in which he was pain millions of dollars to apply for a job where he would make half a million at most. I thought it was a good question. [quote]People can can hold a different, and even a wrong position, without being paid for it?[/quote] No, of course they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Interesting how he doesn't see a problem with abortion and embryonic stem-cell research, yet somehow human cloning is 'unethical'. My question to Obama is this: [b]Why?[/b] If it's okay to [b]manipulate[/b] and [b]kill[/b] human life, how is cloning not? What a completely contradicting, hypocritical, idiot of a president we have now. Edited March 10, 2009 by Paladin D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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