Lounge Daddy Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 This is sick and wrong. This is also our Government. They are using the middle east as a testing ground for new weapons. Weapons that are "frequently cause unintended civilian casualties in Pakistan." Weapons that are also automated and will find targets and fire on them, automatically. Boy with toys. Very deadly toys that are killing people right now. This is why we are not ever bringing our military home. This is why the Federal State is always looking for the next "threat." They need to check out their cool new toys. Something to think about: the Pentagon announced last year a deployment of over 20,000 armed military in US streets. And the Federal State might bring local policing under the Federal umbrella. What if the troops aren't human? [url="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/256/story/64779.html"]From McClatchy News[/url]: [indent] WASHINGTON — The unmanned bombers that frequently cause unintended civilian casualties in Pakistan are a step toward an even more lethal generation of robotic hunters-killers that operate with limited, if any, human control. The Defense Department is financing studies of autonomous, or self-governing, armed robots that could find and destroy targets on their own. On-board computer programs, not flesh-and-blood people, would decide whether to fire their weapons. "The trend is clear: Warfare will continue and autonomous robots will ultimately be deployed in its conduct," Ronald Arkin, a robotics expert at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, wrote in a study commissioned by the Army. ... As of now, about 5,000 lethal and nonlethal robots are deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Besides targeting Taliban and al Qaida leaders, they perform surveillance, disarm roadside bombs, ferry supplies and carry out other military tasks. So far, none of these machines is autonomous; all are under human control. The Pentagon's plans for its Future Combat System envision increasing levels of independence for its robots. "Fully autonomous engagement without human intervention should also be considered, under user-defined conditions," said a 2007 Army request for proposals to design future robots.[/indent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I am losing faith in the government! it started with Palin... i think we need a good sweet charming princess anyone know where one is at?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 [quote name='princessgianna' post='1816390' date='Mar 25 2009, 05:12 PM']anyone know where one is at??[/quote] Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I just hope we never have a scenario like in the Terminator franchise. May sound like I'm joking, but I'm not. Machines will eventually get smarter as technology develops, and you may never know what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1816394' date='Mar 25 2009, 06:22 PM']Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions.[/quote] Post of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1816394' date='Mar 25 2009, 06:22 PM']Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions.[/quote] A new student gets lost on the Yale campus while looking for his class. He stops one of his fellow students and asks: "Could you tell me where Harkness Hall is at?" The other student replies: "At Yale, we do not end our sentences with prepositions." "Oh, I apologize," says the new student. "Could you tell me where Harness Hall is at, arse portal?" Edited March 26, 2009 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1816394' date='Mar 25 2009, 05:22 PM']Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions.[/quote] Congratulations! You passed the test that I set up in order to test your smartness. ---------------- Listening to: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/linkin+park/track/what+ive+done"]Linkin Park - What I've Done[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='princessgianna' post='1816390' date='Mar 25 2009, 06:12 PM']I am losing faith in the government! [/quote] Lost mine already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1816394' date='Mar 25 2009, 07:22 PM']Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions.[/quote] Only boring people have problems with prepositions at the end of a sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1816394' date='Mar 25 2009, 07:22 PM']Yes. She's with the prince who doesn't end sentences with prepositions.[/quote] you're such a hypocrite! you totally ended that sentence with "prepositions"! it's a little annoying to me that you have to be at a foreign embassy to renounce your citizenship. I'd like to do that and become an illegal immigrant de facto. I don't want to be a citizen of a country which is doing such monstrous things... ah well, guess grit my teeth and hope for a change, a real change, and work in the next election futilely to try to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1816389' date='Mar 25 2009, 06:10 PM']This is sick and wrong. This is also our Government. They are using the middle east as a testing ground for new weapons. Weapons that are "frequently cause unintended civilian casualties in Pakistan." Weapons that are also automated and will find targets and fire on them, automatically. Boy with toys. Very deadly toys that are killing people right now. This is why we are not ever bringing our military home. This is why the Federal State is always looking for the next "threat." They need to check out their cool new toys. Something to think about: the Pentagon announced last year a deployment of over 20,000 armed military in US streets. And the Federal State might bring local policing under the Federal umbrella. What if the troops aren't human? [url="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/256/story/64779.html"]From McClatchy News[/url]: [indent] WASHINGTON — The unmanned bombers that frequently cause unintended civilian casualties in Pakistan are a step toward an even more lethal generation of robotic hunters-killers that operate with limited, if any, human control. The Defense Department is financing studies of autonomous, or self-governing, armed robots that could find and destroy targets on their own. On-board computer programs, not flesh-and-blood people, would decide whether to fire their weapons. "The trend is clear: Warfare will continue and autonomous robots will ultimately be deployed in its conduct," Ronald Arkin, a robotics expert at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, wrote in a study commissioned by the Army. ... As of now, about 5,000 lethal and nonlethal robots are deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Besides targeting Taliban and al Qaida leaders, they perform surveillance, disarm roadside bombs, ferry supplies and carry out other military tasks. So far, none of these machines is autonomous; all are under human control. The Pentagon's plans for its Future Combat System envision increasing levels of independence for its robots. "Fully autonomous engagement without human intervention should also be considered, under user-defined conditions," said a 2007 Army request for proposals to design future robots.[/indent][/quote] Yeah, usually things like this don't get much coverage. Look at what our Uranium depleted shells did to Iraqi children after the first Gulf War. Of course this has nothing to do with why huge portions of the third and muslim world are upset with us. They hate us for our freedom. The fact that we treat their lives as something approximating the value of dirty laundry is just a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hassan' post='1816819' date='Mar 26 2009, 03:11 AM']They hate us for our freedom. The fact that we treat their lives as something approximating the value of dirty laundry is just a coincidence.[/quote] We have exchanged liberty for licence; and unfortunately licence breeds slavery. This is not freedom. But we [i]call [/i]it freedom. This is so sad. Edited March 26, 2009 by Lounge Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsup Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 being a military brat for part of my life and knowing wepons testing went on nearby....and living in neighborhoods where not one house was untouched by cancer makes me kinda grateful they stopped that kinda testing. However, you can't stop the progress of Robots. This article has all the hype of Santa Claus from Futurama..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 but then they should not do that testing anywhere!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 There is a great quote near the end of the article: "Robots must be constrained to [i]adhere to the same laws as humans[/i] or they should not be permitted on the battlefield." I disagree. The same as humans, according to our Government, seem to allow experimentation on other helpless and innocent humans. The robots need to be more constrained than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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