If I Were A Priest

[Resurrexi]

I would never write my own homilies. I would just find one from a Church Father for the appropriate feast/gospel and read it. But no-one would know and so they would all think that I was a orator.

[IcePrincessKRS]

So what you're saying is you'd basically plagiarize homilies...

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1823009' date='Apr 2 2009, 08:09 PM']So what you're saying is you'd basically plagiarize homilies...[/quote]
FTW.

[Excelsior1027]

It's not so much plagiarism as it is passing on the wisdom of the saints.

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='Excelsior1027' post='1823018' date='Apr 2 2009, 10:16 PM']It's not so much plagiarism as it is passing on the wisdom of the saints. [/quote]

Taking someone else's work and passing it off as your own is plagiarism. He could read it to them and tell them it was the writings of Church Fathers, but that's not what he said he'd do.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1823009' date='Apr 2 2009, 09:09 PM']So what you're saying is you'd basically plagiarize homilies...[/quote]

Not really. I actually got the idea from a practice in the Eastern Catholic Churches. On Easter Sunday, in every church a homily by St. John Chrysostom is read. Honestly, I don't see how it would be plagiarism. The Church has actually recommended something like it in the past. When the Catechism of the Council of Trent, the precursor to the CCC, was published, there was a sermon program that came with it telling priests which pages to read on which Sundays and Feasts.

Edited April 3, 2009 by Resurrexi

[IcePrincessKRS]

Except I'm pretty sure the Church intended for the people to know it was coming from a Church Father, not for the benefit of the priest so the congregation would think he was "a great orator."

Just sayin'.

[Resurrexi]

True. But I don't think it necessary has to be said that the homily is from a Church Father. Obviously priests don't always have to cite their sources in homilies as one would do in a research paper. Mainly I like the idea because the homilies of the Fathers are better than anything even the most talented homilists could write.

Edited April 3, 2009 by Resurrexi

[CatholicCid]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1823041' date='Apr 2 2009, 09:36 PM']True. But I don't think it necessary has to be said that the homily is from a Church Father. Obviously priests don't always have to cite their sources in homilies as one would do in a research paper. Mainly I like the idea because the homilies of the Fathers are better than anything even the most talented homilists could write.[/quote]

And, to complete a paradoxical loop, the Fathers are some of the most talented homilists

[TeresaBenedicta]

As a deacon friend has told me... when it comes to homilies, there's no such thing as plagarism... It's called "borrowing.

[Nihil Obstat]

That homily that Cardinal Ratzinger gave just before the conclave started is, in my opinion, one of the most powerful speeches in recent history. That's the one where he talked about the dictatorship of relativism. Best term ever.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1823036' date='Apr 2 2009, 09:30 PM']Except I'm pretty sure the Church intended for the people to know it was coming from a Church Father, not for the benefit of the priest so the congregation would think he was "a great orator."

Just sayin'.[/quote]
Thanks Ms. Killjoy!

[Maggyie]

I read somewhere that St. John Mary Vianney "lifted" a lot of his homily material from other sources...

[Jaime]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1823007' date='Apr 2 2009, 09:07 PM']I would never write my own homilies. I would just find one from a Church Father for the appropriate feast/gospel and read it. But no-one would know and so they would all think that I was a orator.[/quote]

Here's a thought, join the seminary and try that strategy with your studies. Let us know how it works out for you.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1823233' date='Apr 2 2009, 10:02 PM']That homily that Cardinal Ratzinger gave just before the conclave started is, in my opinion, one of the most powerful speeches in recent history. That's the one where he talked about the dictatorship of relativism. Best term ever.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
and yet, he usually quotes if he's lifting a passage from a saint or early Church Father.