Taxes

[dauntingknight]

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Wish I can join them.

[Winchester]

Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.

[Guest]

Just got back from H n R block.

I owe some g's.

[pio]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1836470' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:01 AM']Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.[/quote]
Agreed.
I can see why people demonstrate, though; I've paid income tax, and I can see my friends wasting their state-paid education, so that's quite annoying.

[Slappo]

I think when taxes go farther then they should is when I get frustrated... like... universal health care type stuff... pay for condoms at schools type stuff.

Roads, sure. Police, sure. Condoms, NO.

I did say that I agree with taxes though. I just think our government is on the verge of socialism, and already is involved with way too much (even before Obama).

Edited April 15, 2009 by Slappo

[CatherineM]

I read something yesterday, and haven't been able to verify it yet, but apparently some Quakers pay their taxes into escrow that the IRS can only access if they agree that they won't be used for the war. My dad was forced by his union to pay a certain amount every year to the United Way, and he worked out a deal that his money would not be used for planned parenthood. It would be nice if we could do the same with out tax money. I guess with Obama in office, that will never happen.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1836470' date='Apr 15 2009, 06:01 PM']Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.[/quote]
lol

[Nihil Obstat]

I get $14.28 back from the government after my tax returns are done.

[whatsup]

Considering that I went to college financed mostly by the government, that the government finances the interest, I drive on a freeway to work, work at a public institution, etc. I pay my taxes without much grumbling.

In economic theory, done right, taxes bolster the economy as a whole. Right now we're on the line between bolstering, faltering and smothering. When you have an intterconnected economy you need taxes due to the problem of free riders.

EG. There is a deadly bug. The only way to get rid of the bug is to spray citrius. (which is all natural, organic, safe, etc). So Jim pilot figures to canvas a city he'll need to spray 50 gallons. There's 500 houses in the and at $100 a gallon, with fuel and his wage it would come to $15 a resident. Well he goes door to door and collects his money. All goes fine until he reaches this guy, Reginald, who refuses to pay. All of Reginald's neighbor's paid. Reginald CANNOT be excluded in this service becuase Jim must honor the neighbor's contracts and there is no way to not distribute this areosol on Reginald's property.

Taxes take from Reginald, his neighbors, add the money together and pay the 7,500 it costs to spray the town. It gives Reginald employment etc. Taxes should be to provide services that cannot be broken down on the individal level

In theory, that holds, my own college loans were not appropriate use of taxpayer dollars, although in a different theory they are.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1836470' date='Apr 15 2009, 06:01 PM']Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.[/quote]

You're just saying that because you work for the man.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1836470' date='Apr 15 2009, 05:01 PM']Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.[/quote]
Unfortunately, today taxes pay for MUCH beyond roads, sewer, military, police and, and fire departments.

The amount we pay for pork and wasteful (and even blatantly immoral) federal government projects is nothing short of obscene.

[dauntingknight]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1836470' date='Apr 15 2009, 06:01 PM']Your money is your money if you don't use roads, sewer, benefit from military, police and fire protection, etcetera. Taxes are part of living in a state.[/quote]
My point is that I do not want the Government to have tax increases on stupid things for abortions,planned parenthood etck.

[add]

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”

[Slappo]

[quote name='apparently' post='1837111' date='Apr 16 2009, 02:07 AM']“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”[/quote]

It's a picture of Susan B Anthony on my dollar coin not Barack Obama. S.B. Anthony stood for true feminism.

Also... Caesar wasn't running a democracy and actually owned the peoples tax money. Since there is a constitution in America, the tax money can't go against the constitution otherwise it breaks my rights as a citizen and therefore the tax money is not rightfully the governments but is even in a sense being stolen from me.

[add]

[quote name='Slappo' post='1837423' date='Apr 16 2009, 04:04 PM']It's a picture of Susan B Anthony on my dollar coin not Barack Obama. S.B. Anthony stood for true feminism.

Also... Caesar wasn't running a democracy and actually owned the peoples tax money. Since there is a constitution in America, the tax money can't go against the constitution otherwise it breaks my rights as a citizen and therefore the tax money is not rightfully the governments but is even in a sense being stolen from me.[/quote]
Susan B Anthony, Barack Obama, S.B. Anthony, or Caesar there is no diff. Jesus was speaking to the diff between man or earthly possessions and and his father.

(we are) riders on the storm

Edited April 16, 2009 by apparently