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[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='kafka' post='1853013' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:42 AM']fluffy peaceful and satisfying.

Hmm perhaps what you need is a piece of chocolate cake with icecream eaten on a bench in a Victorian park before a sunset off a sparkling river with Mr. Darcy doting on you.[/quote]

yes to all of the above except mr. darcy... i never really liked him. he's fine for elizabeth, but... not my type.

[kafka]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1853014' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:45 AM']yes to all of the above except mr. darcy... i never really liked him. he's fine for elizabeth, but... not my type. [/quote]
Yeah I'm not big into Elizabeth. I like Anne Eliot and especially Elinor

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='kafka' post='1853024' date='Apr 30 2009, 04:02 AM']Yeah I'm not big into Elizabeth. I like Anne Eliot and especially Elinor [/quote]

I like Anne the best out of them two.

[Adrestia]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1852921' date='Apr 30 2009, 12:11 AM']i do think it is divine wrath, but not necessarily obama's fault. we brought this on ourselves. [/quote]
I remember hearing a priest tell a group of 1st, 2nd & 3rd grade children that their sins made Jesus cry. Were you in that group?

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='kafka' post='1852989' date='Apr 30 2009, 02:02 AM']you two are still going at it



why not do something constructive like watch 'Little Dorritt' at the pbs masterpeice homepage.[/quote]

this is my all time fave of Dicken's work...

was pleasantly surprised to find a new version on PBS...

yup, i watched every episode, and now, it's over...

Edited April 30, 2009 by dominicansoul

[Paddington]

Is Dickens where that phrase comes from "you little Dickens."

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='kafka' post='1853009' date='Apr 30 2009, 02:33 AM']oh there are plenty of eccentric characters far and wide, but they are more humorous in this one. So far it is ripe for a happing ending, but there is plenty of drama in between though and of course the typical Dickensian themes, like money, poverty, social norms, etc. Amy Dorritt is like a archetype for feminine goodness, and selflessness, humility, and Arthur is like a perfect gentlemen. So its good to watch them unfold through all the typical Dickensian chaos.

[/quote]
..i really relate to amy dorritt...

but where o where is my arthur clennam??? *sigh* he does not exist...

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='tgoldson' post='1853047' date='Apr 30 2009, 07:40 AM']I remember hearing a priest tell a group of 1st, 2nd & 3rd grade children that their sins made Jesus cry. Were you in that group?[/quote]



No. When I was in third grade I didn't even know what a priest was and had very little comprehension of Jesus.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1853385' date='Apr 30 2009, 02:16 PM']Is Dickens where that phrase comes from "you little Dickens."

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What came first the phrase or the man? iono.....

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1853385' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:16 PM']Is Dickens where that phrase comes from "you little Dickens."

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[url="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_source_for_you_little_dickens"]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_sour..._little_dickens[/url]

Throughout most of the 19th century, it was considered either in poor taste or outright dangerous to speak the word "Devil." The superstitious believed literally in the saying, "Speak of the devil and he appears." Saying his name "Devil" outloud, they thought, causes the actual Devil to physically come to you.

So you can see why people found various words to use in place of "Devil," like "You little dickens," or "What the dickens is wrong with you," and so on, which is just a random choice of an unusual word.

Interstingly, most people believed much the same about the word "Hell," convinced it was dangerous to speak the actual word. So they'd say, for example, "I got mad and told him to go to the other place," in order not to say "go to hell."

[Paddington]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1853390' date='Apr 30 2009, 04:19 PM']What came first the phrase or the man? iono.....[/quote]



I wasn't there.

[Paddington]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1853397' date='Apr 30 2009, 04:21 PM'][url="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_source_for_you_little_dickens"]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_sour..._little_dickens[/url]

Throughout most of the 19th century, it was considered either in poor taste or outright dangerous to speak the word "Devil." The superstitious believed literally in the saying, "Speak of the devil and he appears." Saying his name "Devil" outloud, they thought, causes the actual Devil to physically come to you.

So you can see why people found various words to use in place of "Devil," like "You little dickens," or "What the dickens is wrong with you," and so on, which is just a random choice of an unusual word.

Interstingly, most people believed much the same about the word "Hell," convinced it was dangerous to speak the actual word. So they'd say, for example, "I got mad and told him to go to the other place," in order not to say "go to hell."[/quote]

Yea, but why "dickens?"

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1853401' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:23 PM']Yea, but why "dickens?"[/quote]

well... i don't know. The Oxford English Dictionary says that the term "dickens" came first from Shakespeare's [i]The Merry Wives of Windsor.[/i] ... I guess Shakespeare made it up and people just ran with it?

[Paddington]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1853408' date='Apr 30 2009, 04:25 PM']well... i don't know. The Oxford English Dictionary says that the term "dickens" came first from Shakespeare's [i]The Merry Wives of Windsor.[/i] ... I guess Shakespeare made it up and people just ran with it?[/quote]

Thanks Your Majesty

Oxford English Dictionary > WikiAnswers

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1853390' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:19 PM']What came first the phrase or the man? iono.....[/quote]

the phrase.

[url="http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dic3.htm"]http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dic3.htm[/url]

[Q] From Jan Walsh: Do you know where the phrase hurts like the dickens comes from?

[A] Let’s focus in on dickens as the important word here, since there are lots of different expressions with it in, such as what the dickens, where the dickens, the dickens you are!, and the dickens you say!

It goes back a lot further than Charles Dickens, though it does seem to have been borrowed from the English surname, most likely sometime in the sixteenth century or before. (The surname itself probably derives from Dickin or Dickon, familiar diminutive forms of Johnsonville brat.) It was — and still is, though people hardly know it any more — a euphemism for the Devil. It’s very much in the same style as deuce, as in old oaths like what the deuce! which contains another name for the Devil.

The first person known to use it was that great recorder of Elizabethan expressions, William Shakespeare, in The Merry Wives of Windsor: “FORD: Where had you this pretty weathercock? MRS PAGE: I cannot tell what the dickens his name is my husband had him of”. That pun relied on the audience knowing that Dickens was a personal name and that what the dickens was a mild oath which called on the Devil.