MIKolbe Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 yeah, i gotta admit i am a little confused by this whole thing. i live about 120 miles from the boarder, and i haven't heard of any schools or shop shutting down (not to say there hasn't)..while listening to talk radio, one minute they say it is at level 5 (one level below pandemic), and the next minute they say it is a strain milder than the regular flu, and the next minute they say that is EXACTLY how the 1918 flu was, and then they say they prognosticate that it will be nothing in a month. it's like going shoe shopping with the wife, everything is good and bad at the same time, no decisions are made, and time is wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think the whole swine flu story was just trying to inspire a debate on phatmass about divine chastisements... that was the whole reason the media brought it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='Ziggamafu' post='1853180' date='Apr 30 2009, 01:42 PM']Exactly. Those with access to healthcare in the U.S. do not have too much to fear in regards to deaths; however, in an economy that is already teetering on its edge, this is the last thing we need.[/quote] I dunno... the last thing we need is a spray of atomic bombs on every major city... and one in Nebraska for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I have been impressed with how far people are going with their conspiracies on this. Some are saying that because it is such a weird mutation of 4 types of flu that it is actually a germ warfare agent that got loose. I heard someone else say that this is the government's way of weeding out working age people so that they don't have to pay unemployment to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='socalscout' post='1853092' date='Apr 30 2009, 10:32 AM']I was reading about the Swine Flu on the CDC and other websites and I have found out that: • It has the same symptoms of any other flu we deal with yearly during “Flu season” • It has no special resistance than any other flu and is susceptible to current medications just like other flus • Is not anymore contagious than any other flu • Over 30k people die a year from any flu and this one is no more deadly What is the big deal? Why the hysteria and panic? I can see this can be serious in undeveloped countries but why are we going crazy here?[/quote] The big deal is that this is something new and the immunity to it is unknown. Further I heard yesterday that these new flu's are problematic in that they come in waves. There were 3 waves fo the 1918 flu. The first was not that severe and those who caught it were immune from then on. But the second wave, after it mutated and became more deadly was very tragic and over 1/2 million died in the US. Numbers range from 30-100 million worldwide. Yes, 36,000 generally die in the US from flu and that seems like alot. While there are not alot of deaths so far due to this however in this country, keep in mind it is still mutating and we don't know what it will become or what the second wave will be. Containing it now also could be a double edged sword if the 1918 senario plays out. If we prevent people from getting it now and it mutates in to something worse, as the 1918 version did, the end result will be worse. There is alot to consider here and in the end it's in God's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1853211' date='Apr 30 2009, 01:28 PM']I have been impressed with how far people are going with their conspiracies on this. Some are saying that because it is such a weird mutation of 4 types of flu that it is actually a germ warfare agent that got loose. I heard someone else say that this is the government's way of weeding out working age people so that they don't have to pay unemployment to them.[/quote] Oh man... now that is what scares me. The way people think and place blame and act out in fear -- that is what scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1853226' date='Apr 30 2009, 12:38 PM'] Oh man... now that is what scares me. The way people think and place blame and act out in fear -- that is what scares me.[/quote] Yep, it is often fear and panic that kill more than what we were afraid of in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1853184' date='Apr 30 2009, 01:54 PM']An airborn virus that has killed, according to the WHO, only 7 people. Yet [url="http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm"]36,000 people die from the flu every year[/url]. The only people that want fear are the newspapers, so they can sell more newspapers, and the State, so people can empower them.[/quote] THat would be true if people actually read the newspapers anymore, which they don't. Most people catch headlines on tv or radio, and a large amount check the internet, so I doubt any "disaster" would bring them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 my student worker is home with the flu right now.... she has severe brochitis, and is being checked to see if it's the dreaded swine flu... she works very close to me 4 hours a day 5 days a week.... I have suddenly started feeling an itch in my throat and have started sneezing like crazy... also, i have a a craving for corn husks and a mud bath.... ..should I be worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1853349' date='Apr 30 2009, 03:35 PM']my student worker is home with the flu right now.... she has severe brochitis, and is being checked to see if it's the dreaded swine flu... she works very close to me 4 hours a day 5 days a week.... I have suddenly started feeling an itch in my throat and have started sneezing like crazy... also, i have a a craving for corn husks and a mud bath.... ..should I be worried?[/quote] I would be worried about being exposed to any version of the flu - did you get your shot this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 i never get sick, though. My immune system pretty much rocks! I never get the flu, nor do I bother to get immunized for it... Did you know that the Archdiocese of San Antonio has implemented that Holy Communion will be only given with the Bread this weekend, not the Wine... and they also advice not to shake hands during the Sign of Peace or the Our Father... It's crazy down here, I think people are getting a little too paranoid. I went to pray at a Church in New Braunfels and it was like a ghost town! The Church is closed "until further notice?" How are we supposed to visit the Lord? I think this paranoia is ridiculous.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The immunity is an [i]unknown[/i]. Haven't seen any evidence it's airborne. We don't know if the people were "in their prime" and we don't even know yet how accurate the Mexican government's information is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1853526' date='Apr 30 2009, 05:16 PM']The immunity is an [i]unknown[/i]. Haven't seen any evidence it's airborne. We don't know if the people were "in their prime" and we don't even know yet how accurate the Mexican government's information is.[/quote] If its a novel virus there is no immunity, because we haven't been exposed previously. Its airborne in that it is spread by oral secretions - coughing and sneezing and germs on surfaces. Every year the old, the young and the sick die of the flu, the young usually survive. I hope its a bust, I hope nobody else dies or gets sick, but sooner or later history will repeat itself and I take history seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The following is from a fact sheet from our local Catholic hospital about past swine flu outbreaks in the US Like seasonal flu, swine flu in humans can vary in severity from mild to severe. Between 2005 until January 2009, 12 human cases of swine flu were detected in the U.S. with no deaths occurring. However, swine flu infection can be serious. A swine flu outbreak in Fort Dix, New Jersey occurred in 1976 that caused more than 200 cases with serious illness in several people and one death. So it's been present in the US before with more than 200 cases accounted for in a certain area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) I say they pushed the panic button to help get Sebelius quicker in office. Edited April 30, 2009 by RemnantRules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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