TotusTuusMaria Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1855850' date='May 2 2009, 07:55 PM']Get over yourself. I made an observation because if I had a dollar for every time he's thrown a fit about things I've said, I'd be rich. He doesn't get to go free from this.[/quote] well the whole board did jump all over him. i wouldn't say he went free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [quote name='Slappo' post='1855916' date='May 2 2009, 08:50 PM']Just because I'm from Alaska doesn't mean there is no racism or black people. I've also been going to school in Ohio for 3 years. There's plenty of black people, and plenty of racism in Alaska. We just don't ever use the word monkey.[/quote] Interesting. I had no idea that there was a lot of racism amongst black/white in Alaska... my apologies. How does that play out and why would you say it is there? [quote]To stay on topic: I'd be more worried about the sneakers being given to her as advertising and non USA brand then I would be about how much money she spends on them... the presidency makes something like $400,000 a year. It isn't like they are poor. If she wants to spend her own money on $540 shoes who cares. If it is tax payer money... well that's just stupid but look at where else our tax payer money goes (condoms in school, planned parent hood, abortions in mexico), I doubt it is tax payer money.[/quote] i doubt it is tax payer money too. she makes a great deal of dough herself from work she does herself. Interesting about the advertising... I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps. I bet she bought them though, but who knows? I wouldn't mind if she advertised the shoes... even if they are a non-USA brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 You know, I actually feel bad for Michelle. If she was wearing a simple pair of Nike sneakers, the media would be all over it. "She has a boring fashion sense" and "what was she thinking??" and "she is the First Lady, she should have better taste than that" would be all over the place. Instead of celebrating the charity event, people focused on her expensive sneakers. Seriously?? Yes, seriously. The First Lady, in my opinion, is ALWAYS scrutinized when it comes to fashion. Believe me, even if she was wearing a "between" pair of sneakers (not inexpensive but not expensive either) there would be criticisms. [quote name='Slappo' post='1855431' date='May 2 2009, 11:25 AM']Well... in my 22 years of life I have [b]maybe[/b] a half dozen times heard monkey used as racist. Monkey makes me think of GWB faster then a black person.[/quote] It does not matter HOW many times you have heard it. A racial slur is a racial slur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 To agree with Erin and bring Jackie O back up, the media totally went after Jackie O's degrading fashion sense as she got older. She wasn't even the First Lady still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1855393' date='May 2 2009, 09:39 AM']Okay, while it is ridiculous to buy a pair of sneakers for that price, if we begin to really examine our purchases we will ALL find something we probably could do without. Contact lenses, treating yourself to that new sweater, any and all beauty products. Should we feel guilty when we buy these things with our money?[/quote] My question was tongue in cheek for Hassan. I don't think she is being insensitive for wearing overpriced sneakers just as I don't think Palin wearing nice clothes disqualifies her for speaking for all Americans as Hassan asserted during the wardrobe "scandal." [quote]Besides, the sneakers may be WORTH that much money, but how much did she PAY for them? The price would have gone down significantly if the sneakers were on sale and she had a coupon, perhaps she had a gift card.[/quote] Sneakers worth $540? Hmm, highly doubt it. It better have real gold trim somewhere. They remind me of clown shoes. [img]http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/05/01/amd_sneakers_obama.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.clownsupplyandnoveltyco.com/images/1925.jpg[/img] The First Lady using a coupon? I doubt the stores where they sell those shoes even take coupons. [quote name='BG45' post='1855423' date='May 2 2009, 11:01 AM']So basically you're saying that if she didn't pay for those shoes, and the taxpayers didn't pay for those shoes, then the entire point of comparing her expensive shoes to Sarah Palin's campaign wardrobe that the original post was trying to make is a false analogy?[/quote] The point of the original post was not the source of funds, but what kind of message does wearing $540 sneakers send to Americans who are experiencing "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression "? As Hassan put it, the Palin wardrobe "scandal" was not about a woman wearing nice clothes. The scandal was the appearance of living large during hard times and claiming to represent all Americans. To some, you can't represent all Americans unless your clothes are from Walmart or Target. Edited May 4, 2009 by kamiller42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' post='1857279' date='May 4 2009, 02:22 AM']The point of the original post was not the source of funds, but what kind of message does wearing $540 sneakers send to Americans who are experiencing "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression "?[/quote] And how many Americans would have KNOWN the price of her sneakers OR the designer if the media had kept their mouth shut? (Who would have even cared to notice her footwear during a charity event??) There would have been no "message" sent to Americans if this were the case. And if we want to talk "economic crisis" - the First Lady loves J.Crew. I can only imagine that helps their business. (During the campaign, Michelle wore dresses from my store. People were calling into our dress department and coming in to look for dress X and Y that she wore.) Makes me wonder how many of these $540 sneakers have been sold since that charity event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Share Posted May 4, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1857546' date='May 4 2009, 12:53 PM']And how many Americans would have KNOWN the price of her sneakers OR the designer if the media had kept their mouth shut? (Who would have even cared to notice her footwear during a charity event??) There would have been no "message" sent to Americans if this were the case. And if we want to talk "economic crisis" - the First Lady loves J.Crew. I can only imagine that helps their business. (During the campaign, Michelle wore dresses from my store. People were calling into our dress department and coming in to look for dress X and Y that she wore.) Makes me wonder how many of these $540 sneakers have been sold since that charity event.[/quote] There are brave reporters who actually do their job and report the facts. It is very rare. Obviously, this NY Daily News reporter won't be [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAfJyzN3ak"]standing at attention when Obama enters the room[/url]. Kudos. Michelle probably spurred some sales. The French thank her. She isn't the only woman in politics who can generate sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' post='1857886' date='May 4 2009, 07:36 PM']There are brave reporters who actually do their job and report the facts.[/quote] And reporting on the First Lady's [b]sneakers[/b] during a [b]charity event[/b] is doing one's job and reporting the facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1858080' date='May 4 2009, 08:47 PM']And reporting on the First Lady's [b]sneakers[/b] during a [b]charity event[/b] is doing one's job and reporting the facts?[/quote] I agree with you one hundred percent. We should completely ignore the First Lady's attire, actually, so that through the media we are not encouraging her to use her position of influence as a vehicle to advertise fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1858080' date='May 4 2009, 10:47 PM']And reporting on the First Lady's [b]sneakers[/b] during a [b]charity event[/b] is doing one's job and reporting the facts?[/quote] [b]Yes[/b]. The reporters have now risked their careers with their peers by portraying an Obama in a less than appealing light. If they are going to report on the details of Obama daily life, maybe they should take notes from a [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30375590/"][b]real media institution[/b] reporting matters important to us[/url]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' post='1858598' date='May 5 2009, 02:01 PM'][b]Yes[/b]. The reporters have now risked their careers with their peers by portraying an Obama in a less than appealing light. If they are going to report on the details of Obama daily life, maybe they should take notes from a [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30375590/"][b]real media institution[/b] reporting matters important to us[/url].[/quote] [quote]"I think I have the best job in the White House. I don't have to deal with the hard problems every day," Mrs. Obama said. "I have some problems that I have to deal with, but I get to do the fun stuff."[/quote] what exactly is her "job?" and does she get paid with taxpayer money do to it? (Well, i know the secret service is definitely paid by taxpayers....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' post='1858598' date='May 5 2009, 03:01 PM'][b]Yes[/b]. The reporters have now risked their careers with their peers by portraying an Obama in a less than appealing light. If they are going to report on the details of Obama daily life, maybe they should take notes from a [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30375590/"][b]real media institution[/b] reporting matters important to us[/url].[/quote] Reporting on Michelle's sneakers INSTEAD of the importance of the charity event is poor, poor reporting skills. What a waste of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1858602' date='May 5 2009, 02:05 PM']Reporting on Michelle's sneakers INSTEAD of the importance of the charity event is poor, poor reporting skills. What a waste of a story.[/quote] a) The reporter is a fashion reporter. It is her job to report on fashion, not on charity events. If she had focused on the event more than on the clothes, she would have been exhibiting poor, poor reporting skills. b) The only reason the charity event was newsworthy is because Michelle & Co. were there. Otherwise we would not have heard about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='Terra Firma' post='1858630' date='May 5 2009, 03:43 PM']a) The reporter is a fashion reporter. It is her job to report on fashion, not on charity events. If she had focused on the event more than on the clothes, she would have been exhibiting poor, poor reporting skills.[/quote] I was not specifically discussing a fashion reporter but the press in general who ate up the "sneaker story." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 And even more important news... [url="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9808DQO0&show_article=1"]Obama and Biden eat hamburgers[/url]! The Obama loving media in full swing. Very objective bunch. I guess this is a preemptive strike against any sort of grocery scanner moment. Keep it real prez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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