Maine Falls To Homosexual Marriage Abomination

[Didacus]

[quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1859681' date='May 6 2009, 02:52 PM']Maine is being a copycat. I don't believe this trend will last. I believe America will dig in their heels and say no. Same-sex marriage may have won a couple small skirmishes, but they have ways to go, and I believe and trust that the tide will be turned.

It's not like Americans are really supporting this gay marriage thing. Even CNN is saying that Americans are slightly against it overall. Remember CNN is a left wing news outlet so their numbers are usually a big rigged [/quote]

Although the overall direction remains in favor of the left, I have to admit it seems the momemtum is starting to shift back to conservative views. Partly because several 'liberals' are admitting the unsustainability of their position. The arguments are exhausted, its now a question of people being plainly honest.

[Guest KevinSymonds]

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[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='thessalonian' post='1859671' date='May 6 2009, 03:28 PM'][url="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/06/maine.same.sex.marriage/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/06/mai...iage/index.html[/url]

Funny, toward the end they say that those against gay marriage have a slim lead. 54 to 44 percent are the numbers they give. I think 10% is a significant lead. Didn't they say that oboma won by a wide margin. I think those numbers were similar if I recall.[/quote]

Obama won the electoral votes by very wide margin... it was hardly a contest. The popular vote, of course, was a very close margin... like 51-48 in Obama's favor, but Presidents are not elected by the popular vote.

I don't know how some people believe conservative values are making any kind of comeback. When I look around, I notice the majority of our generation is socially liberal (and I'm in Kentucky... though admittedly Louisville isn't exactly a conservative town) and the majority of conservatives are baby boomers. That doesn't bode well for a comeback.

Edited May 7, 2009 by LouisvilleFan

[SaintOlaf]

Something I've seen at least in this are with a number of my acquaintances and class mates (at a secular school), is almost a reversion to conservative viewpoints. Now most of these people (18-22 years old for the most part) still voted for Obama but seem to be making steps towards the right.

I was talking to one of my old sociology professors about this just a week ago, and he said that he saw this back in the 60's and 70's, just in the opposite direction. Young adults in that time were rebelling against their parents' conservative views and knee-jerked the other way... kids these days are starting to do the opposite. It's only a question of how will they respond to their changing views, will they vote their conscience or do what the media/society dictates.

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='SaintOlaf' post='1860909' date='May 7 2009, 04:43 PM']It's only a question of how will they respond to their changing views, will they vote their conscience or do what the media/society dictates.[/quote]

Well, the idea of rebellion is that you [i]don't[/i] do what media/society dictates

[SaintOlaf]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1860915' date='May 7 2009, 04:46 PM']Well, the idea of rebellion is that you [i]don't[/i] do what media/society dictates [/quote]

Right, but as I stated, the youth I mentioned still voted for Obama. I think what they really need is a young charismatic conservative to rally behind, someone that can relate to them. Honestly, if I weren't Catholic, I wouldn't have voted for McCain either.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='SaintOlaf' post='1860920' date='May 7 2009, 02:49 PM']Right, but as I stated, the youth I mentioned still voted for Obama. I think what they really need is a young charismatic conservative to rally behind, someone that can relate to them. Honestly, if I weren't Catholic, I wouldn't have voted for McCain either.[/quote]

I think you're right. I think they were voting more for a personality than for a platform. My grandmother used to do that. She'd vote for whomever had the prettiest name.

[eagle_eye222001]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1861154' date='May 7 2009, 07:32 PM']I think you're right. I think they were voting more for a personality than for a platform. My grandmother used to do that. She'd vote for whomever had the prettiest name.[/quote]

I agree.
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That and there was a lot of anti-Bush public sentiment (whether it was right or wrong) and therefore the GOP nominee had an uphill battle to start up and McCain wasn't a knight in shining armor.

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[CatherineM]

Change. Someone asked me last summer about Obama. I was trying to be diplomatic since it was an interview about my book, and my publisher wanted it to get aired, so I said that I'm all for change, but I think it's important to know what changes someone is talking about before just blindly following. The interviewer seemed deflated or maybe just suspicious of me.

[eagle_eye222001]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1861205' date='May 7 2009, 08:33 PM']Change. Someone asked me last summer about Obama. I was trying to be diplomatic since it was an interview about my book, and my publisher wanted it to get aired, so I said that I'm all for change, but I think it's important to know what changes someone is talking about before just blindly following. The interviewer seemed deflated or maybe just suspicious of me.[/quote]

Person had every right to be suspicious of someone who wants to question why we should blindly follow someone who is not Bush.

I mean come on.

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