Lounge Daddy Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [url="http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867"]From N.C. local news[/url]: [indent]Around 10 p.m. on March 5, Lundeby said, armed FBI agents along with three local law enforcement officers stormed her home looking for her son. They handcuffed him and presented her with a search warrant. "I was terrified," Lundeby's mother said. "There were guns, and I don't allow guns around my children. I don't believe in guns." Lundeby told the officers that someone had hacked into her son's IP address and was using it to make crank calls connected through the Internet, making it look like the calls had originated from her home when they did not. Her argument was ignored, she said. Agents seized a computer, a cell phone, gaming console, routers, bank statements and school records, according to federal search warrants. "There were no bomb-making materials, not even a blasting cap, not even a wire," Lundeby said. Ashton now sits in a juvenile facility in South Bend, Ind. His mother has had little access to him since his arrest. She has gone to her state representatives as well as attorneys, seeking assistance, but, she said, there is nothing she can do. Lundeby said the USA Patriot Act stripped her son of his due process rights.[/indent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 If another government did this to one of their teenagers we would call them terrorists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1860068' date='May 6 2009, 08:14 PM']If another government did this to one of their teenagers we would call them terrorists...[/quote] absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 A very good reason to make sure your wireless setup is secure. Change the passwords routinely, and even more importantly, turn the gain down on your wireless router so that it can't be intercepted outside your home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1860093' date='May 6 2009, 09:48 PM']A very good reason to make sure your wireless setup is secure. Change the passwords routinely, and even more importantly, turn the gain down on your wireless router so that it can't be intercepted outside your home.[/quote] Those measures will not make the slightest bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1860104' date='May 6 2009, 08:20 PM']Those measures will not make the slightest bit of difference.[/quote] I thought they were dealing with someone who was bootlegging off their wireless. That can be difficult to prove that you didn't do it. Was it someone who physically was cutting into their cable line, or someone else in the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1860106' date='May 6 2009, 09:26 PM']I thought they were dealing with someone who was bootlegging off their wireless. That can be difficult to prove that you didn't do it. Was it someone who physically was cutting into their cable line, or someone else in the house?[/quote] I don't know, but they stormed the house with guns drawn, and are currently holding this kid without due process. They don't seem too interested in whether someone was bootlegging off their wireless. They are more interested in flexing their muscles and exercising the power that we have allowed the State to take on in the name of defending us from "terrorism." And the of course the State is either making up threats, or [url="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/05/homeland-pulled-back-extremism-dictionary/"]re-defining what is "terrorism"[/url] in an effort to keep the powers they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1860106' date='May 6 2009, 10:26 PM']I thought they were dealing with someone who was bootlegging off their wireless. That can be difficult to prove that you didn't do it. Was it someone who physically was cutting into their cable line, or someone else in the house?[/quote] Good thing they have to prove he did. At least that is how it used to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1860273' date='May 6 2009, 10:25 PM']Good thing they have to prove he did. At least that is how it used to work.[/quote] The rules have sure changed since my Constitutional Law and Criminal Law classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 They'll release him, there will be quiet apologies, and everyone will forget this ever happened. I don't even know where the change can come from anymore..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1860278' date='May 6 2009, 10:29 PM']They'll release him, there will be quiet apologies, and everyone will forget this ever happened. I don't even know where the change can come from anymore..... [/quote] That didn't happen when they found out that Omar Kahdr was trapped under rubble and unconscious when he supposedly threw a hand grenade that killed a US soldier. He's still in Gitmo, the only Western citizen left, and the only child soldier in US custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What a joke. ---------------- Now playing: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/creed/track/never+die"]Creed - Never Die[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Does the family belong to Homeschool Legal Defense. I am not sure it would help with this case however since they home school.... they should look into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I don't know if this would help or not but can't they sue for the lack of due process? My high school government teacher who used to be a lawyer told us that the only way you can really change a government that is not enforcing its own laws is to sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnavarro61 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 oh what country is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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