Hassan Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 This is the thread where Kafka and I talk about general issues of philosophy, religion etc and whatever./he tries to save my immortal soul I put it here because I hope others join in and contribute. I just feel like it would be a waste to start a new thread on every little topic of interest we want to discuss between ourselves and the general phamly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Hi Hassan I look forward to discussing all the important issues which may come up in such a thread, and I hope others could participate as you suggested. First I want to express that it is not as if I personally want to save your immortal soul in some explicit or obtrusive way. That is something personal and intimate between you and the absolute mystery we call God. You are on your own journey unto the end, and that is God's self-communication, His Will, and His Providence working in seemless ways beyond me. A few months back I saw some of your posts and I was struck by how you saw through a lot of the naivete and what Rahner would call mythology in people's understanding of the Church, religion, theology and philosophy. I thought this was a good thing, and I generally thought you made some good points, so I thought I might offer myself and my understanding to you in a sort of openness which might benefit you in some way, since you seem to be in search of something. I thought I could offer some of my own unique views of theology coming from a viewpoint one doesnt usually encounter in mainstream Catholicism. I also think I could learn from you, and engage in a good logical discussion, since I see some great potential in your mind. I also see a bit of myself in you, and thought you might benefit from some of my experiences. All this may be wishful thinking on my part but still a good solid dialogue with mutual respect and good ideas being thrown out in the open without prejudice or pettiness, etc. would be beneficial to me, hopefully you, and perhaps to others. Plus I am always up for a challenge a bit of strenuous thinking apart from my normal circle of contacts. I also want to thank you for sharing that Hubert Dreyfus talk in the other thread. It lead me to find a series of his Berkley lectures called Man, God and Society in Western Literature. I skipped ahead to the Moby D ick audi and he comes up with some good insights (I think I have two more to go). I like to read Moby D ick once every few years since it is so rich and of course considered the greatest American novel so maybe some of the things I read will seep into this thread. After that I will move on to Dreyfus' Heidegger lectures. You probably already get the sense that I am more interested in continental philosophy right now, though I in no way reject analytic philosophy. Same idea with 'ascending' and 'descending' theology. I'm not sure if those terms mean anything to you but I prefer 'ascending' theology at this time yet I dont reject a 'descending' theology. I am also re-reading 'Foundations of Christian Faith' by Karl Rahner, 'Divine Mercy in My Soul' by St Faustina (Helen Kowalski), as well as perusing Rahner's 'Theological Investigations' Maybe I am reading some other things but cant remember right now. Oh yes, a section of 'Divine Mileau' by Teilhard de Chardin. Anyhow for now I dont know how to start so I'll leave it at that for now. Edited May 9, 2009 by kafka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) oh no... it has already been started. i have given this thread one star. i would have given it no stars, but then I wouldn't have effected the star rating thing. Edited May 9, 2009 by TotusTuusMaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1862440' date='May 9 2009, 03:06 AM']oh no... it has already been started. i have given this thread one star. i would have given it no stars, but then I wouldn't have effected the star rating thing.[/quote] your support is appreciated. I look forward to you sharing your insights and understanding. Edited May 9, 2009 by kafka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 [url="http://www.youtube.com/user/SesameStreet"]http://www.youtube.com/user/SesameStreet[/url] Michelle Obama was on Sesame Street with Elmo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1862459' date='May 9 2009, 02:19 AM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/user/SesameStreet"]http://www.youtube.com/user/SesameStreet[/url] Michelle Obama was on Sesame Street with Elmo? [/quote] Why are you watching Sesame Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Kafka is the last don. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1862664' date='May 9 2009, 12:08 PM']Kafka is the last don.[/quote] 'Call me Ishmael.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Hassan' post='1862662' date='May 9 2009, 12:06 PM']Why are you watching Sesame Street?[/quote] it amuses me. and it's the children's favorite tv show. but of course, you wouldn't know that would you? Edited May 9, 2009 by TotusTuusMaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1862996' date='May 9 2009, 05:02 PM']it amuses me. [/quote] I gues everything is funny when you'e been knockin 'em back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1862664' date='May 9 2009, 12:08 PM']Kafka is the last don.[/quote] oh, don't encourage them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1863000' date='May 9 2009, 06:03 PM']I gues everything is funny when you'e been knockin 'em back [/quote] knocking what back? elmo is classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1863001' date='May 9 2009, 05:04 PM']oh, don't encourage them [/quote] Kafka and I need no encouragement to be awesome, we do it naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotusTuusMaria Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) I wasn't referring to ya'lls supposed "awesomeness" (which in all reality, does not exist... at least, not on your part) St. Therese, Princess Gianna, Queen Icey-Ice-Landy, and myself are the awesomest... and Lil Red... she has power. Edited May 9, 2009 by TotusTuusMaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1863004' date='May 9 2009, 06:07 PM']knocking what back? [/quote] [quote name='Hassan' post='1863008' date='May 9 2009, 06:11 PM']Kafka and I need no encouragement to be awesome, we do it naturally.[/quote] tis the nature of the leviathon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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