ReinnieR Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1862566' date='May 9 2009, 09:03 AM']That completely changes the dynamics of every single series.[/quote] Not Enterprise. Enterprise happened before Jim Kirk's dad got killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1865376' date='May 12 2009, 01:04 PM']Not Enterprise. Enterprise happened before Jim Kirk's dad got killed.[/quote] It does impact Enterprise, because Enterprise follows the events from [i]First Contact[/i], but now that the TNG universe is altered -- [spoiler]and Vulcan being destroyed is a very big change indeed[/spoiler] -- who knows if the events in [i]First Contact[/i] happened. Did the Borg still go back in time? Who knows? Did Sisko still go back to the early 21st century as recounted in DS9? Who knows? Was Sisko even born? Who knows? To paraphrase what Hermione Granger said in the [i]Prisoner of Azkaban[/i], "awful things happen to Star Trek producers who meddle with time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I agree that it was a well made, enjoyable film. there were a few issues, but nothing big enough to really detract from the quality of the film. I thought the cameo by Wynona Ryder was interesting. I would love to see more Star Trek films with these actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Will they have the albino monkeycorn, thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Saint Therese' post='1865766' date='May 13 2009, 12:22 AM']I agree that it was a well made, enjoyable film. there were a few issues, but nothing big enough to really detract from the quality of the film. I thought the cameo by Wynona Ryder was interesting. I would love to see more Star Trek films with these actors.[/quote] Absolutely. I hope this is the beginning of a long series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, Damon Lindelof has already signed on to work on the script for the next one. Or so he said on the Lost podcast a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1866006' date='May 13 2009, 08:28 AM']Will they have the albino monkeycorn, thought?[/quote] I'd take the albino monkey over the new Scotty's midget alien pet, which evidently has become a member of the Enterprise crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1865381' date='May 12 2009, 04:13 PM']It does impact Enterprise, because Enterprise follows the events from [i]First Contact[/i], but now that the TNG universe is altered -- [spoiler]and Vulcan being destroyed is a very big change indeed[/spoiler] -- who knows if the events in [i]First Contact[/i] happened. Did the Borg still go back in time? Who knows? Did Sisko still go back to the early 21st century as recounted in DS9? Who knows? Was Sisko even born? Who knows? To paraphrase what Hermione Granger said in the [i]Prisoner of Azkaban[/i], "awful things happen to Star Trek producers who meddle with time."[/quote] "The prophets" made sure that Sisko was born. Non-corporeal beings outside linear time. I don't think we need to worry about Sisko being born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1866291' date='May 13 2009, 01:41 PM']"The prophets" made sure that Sisko was born. Non-corporeal beings outside linear time. I don't think we need to worry about Sisko being born.[/quote] How do we know that the "Prophets" even interact with the people of Bajor in this altered universe? We don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1866442' date='May 13 2009, 07:30 PM']How do we know that the "Prophets" even interact with the people of Bajor in this altered universe? We don't![/quote] The "Prophets" have been interacting with the Bajoran people for hundreds of years. What are you talking about? Ancient Bajorans believed in the "Prophets" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1866954' date='May 14 2009, 01:27 AM']The "Prophets" have been interacting with the Bajoran people for hundreds of years. What are you talking about? Ancient Bajorans believed in the "Prophets"[/quote] The "Prophets" could have been destroyed for all we know, and many of the characters from later Star Treks may no longer exist (especially Vulcan characters). This is a reboot after all, and that means that every event in which characters from after the birth of Kirk may have gone back in time or done anything else prior to his birth changes events of the future (and even the past). I'm not big on reboots, and after viewing the new film a couple more times, I am disappointed with it, because its story itself is rather insipid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1862566' date='May 9 2009, 06:33 PM']Anyway, with the timeline messed with thoroughly, the big question is: what's next? Does Star Trek get reborn in new movies with these actors??? I am very excited about that possibility,[/quote] I would be a bit more cautious with the enthusiasm. All this reminds me of the ever-increasingly convoluted retcons that have become a regular feature in the DC and Marvel Comics universes. I hope the Star Trek universe doesn't go down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1866995' date='May 14 2009, 06:42 AM']The "Prophets" could have been destroyed for all we know, and many of the characters from later Star Treks may no longer exist (especially Vulcan characters). This is a reboot after all, and that means that every event in which characters from after the birth of Kirk may have gone back in time or done anything else prior to his birth changes events of the future (and even the past). I'm not big on reboots, and after viewing the new film a couple more times, I am disappointed with it, because its story itself is rather insipid.[/quote] 29th century Federation will see that the time line was altered. it'll show up in any time ships sensors. they'll fix the universe just for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1867331' date='May 14 2009, 08:48 PM']29th century Federation will see that the time line was altered. it'll show up in any time ships sensors. they'll fix the universe just for you.[/quote] So Capt. Braxton of the timeship [i]Aeon [/i]will fix everything? Or will he be in the [i]Relativity [/i]this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1867860' date='May 15 2009, 05:11 AM']So Capt. Braxton of the timeship [i]Aeon [/i]will fix everything? Or will he be in the [i]Relativity [/i]this time?[/quote] It would be Lt. Ducane. Braxton has already been arrested for crimes he's going to commit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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