VoTeckam Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 My feelings are so scattered I have to use bullets to get them all out. Here it goes! - She responded truthfully to a loaded question during the pagent. Good for her! - Her answer was not very eloquent, well thought out, or diplomatic (which a pagent queen should be). - She abandoned her platform to go on talk shows to "defend" traditional marriage, but she did not she never fully explained the biblical/ Christian view on the issue beyond stating, "I was raised to believe marraige is between a man a woman." If she wanted to hang her hat on traditional marriage I feel that she owed it to herself and the rest of the traditional marriage crowd to be a good spokesman...but thats just my humble opinion and nothing more. - These topless photos would never have come out if she had answered Perez's question by saying, "You can't help who you love." Is she being targeted for her answer or for her apparent hypocrisy? - She refused to put her pagent goals ahead of her faith when she was on stage, so why does she now explain away these topless photos by saying, "I am a model and models pose in bathingsuits and sometimes topless." Uh yea... but not models who have written [b]CHRISTIAN [/b]in bold letters on their soapboxes. Ok thats it. Maybe this should be on the lame board. I just felt like a rant. Am I alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 she's getting shredded because she's a hypocrite. The enemies of traditional marriage are using her to attack all proponents of traditional marriage as a bunch of homophobic hypocrites. She obviously does not value Christian morality. So, it could be true that she just simply hates homosexuals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan!c139 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Wasn't she a convert though since her teen years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='pan!c139' post='1865327' date='May 12 2009, 03:25 PM']Wasn't she a convert though since her teen years? [/quote] There were new pictures releasesd today that were taken last year. I think she said she was reborn in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It's a porn contest and there are rules against posing topless? It must be a money thing--having profitable pictures outside the ability of the porn contest rulers to exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1865370' date='May 12 2009, 03:58 PM']It's a porn contest and there are rules against posing topless? It must be a money thing--having profitable pictures outside the ability of the porn contest rulers to exploit.[/quote] Haha no there is no such rule. that is why she kept her crown. But the faith that she professes DOES have rules that discourage one from exposing one's breasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1865378' date='May 12 2009, 12:06 PM']Haha no there is no such rule. that is why she kept her crown. But the faith that she professes DOES have rules that discourage one from exposing one's breasts.[/quote] Modesty in general... being nude ain't the half, what ever happened to the idea of "women shall be saved through childbearing if they continue in holiness, modesty and love"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Her statements at the pageant and her topless photos are both forms of free speech, or used to be. Didn't Vanessa Williams lose her crown because of nude photos? Have they changed the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) [quote name='CatherineM' post='1865422' date='May 12 2009, 05:01 PM']Her statements at the pageant and her topless photos are both forms of free speech, or used to be. Didn't Vanessa Williams lose her crown because of nude photos? Have they changed the rules?[/quote] I think Vanenssa Williams was Miss American not Miss USA. And even if she was Miss USA, the organization was not owned by Donald Trump at the time. As for free speach, I am not arguing that she did not have the right to answer the way she did or to pose topless. But the later did not exibit prudent judgement. Edited May 12, 2009 by VoTeckam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1865433' date='May 12 2009, 03:16 PM']As for free speach, I am not arguing that she did not have the right to answer the way she did or to pose topless. But the later did not exibit prudent judgement.[/quote] You are definitely right about that. I don't care how much money you are offered, if you wouldn't want your grandmother, or your grandchildren to see it, don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I saw her on fox news today and she said her breast was exposed becasue it was "windy" out and the pic shouldn't have been released or something. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercy me Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I think it took a lot of courage to say defend marriage knowing that it is no the PC thing to do. The majority of Americans agree with her and yet the PC police have been attacking her non stop. It can't be easy for her and I am glad that she continues to stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote name='Mercy me' post='1867882' date='May 15 2009, 07:20 AM']I think it took a lot of courage to say defend marriage knowing that it is no the PC thing to do. The majority of Americans agree with her and yet the PC police have been attacking her non stop. It can't be easy for her and I am glad that she continues to stand.[/quote] Yeah, she had to know being from California that her answer was going to have an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Topless pics do not change the veracity of her comments on "gay marriage." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telcom_girl Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Regardless of the immodest photos (intended or not), I think she was honest about her answer to a very "hot topic" and I applaud her. The backlash has been terrible. I feel sorry for her and pray for her, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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