ReinnieR Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I just thought we needed to update our old poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I voted for "First Contact," but I would have voted for "The Wrath of Khan" too, i.e, if the poll had distinguished between the feature films with the original crew and the TNG crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The new Star Trek film, as a reboot of the franchise, should have been placed in a separate category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 still part of the franchise no matter how much we don't like the whole reboot idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Here are my votes with slightly revised categories: Star Trek (the original and its prequels and sequels) vs. Star Wars: [i]Star Trek[/i] Best Star Trek feature film with the TOS crew: [i]The Wrath of Khan[/i] Best Star Trek feature film with the TNG crew: [i]First Contact[/i] Star Trek (the Generation Y reboot) vs. Star Wars: [i]Star Wars[/i] Best Star Wars movie: [i]The Empire Strikes Back[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1865369' date='May 12 2009, 12:57 PM']still part of the franchise no matter how much we don't like the whole reboot idea.[/quote] Not really. Whether it is a part or not is up to the individual viewer. What is Paramount going to do, sue me for not holding that the new film is part of the 43 year old Star Trek story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Mallard Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Star Trek versus Star Wars: I like them equally but I voted Star Wars Favorite Star Trek movie: Star Trek (2009) but if there were multiple choices I would've voted Star Trek, First Contact, and The Undiscovered Country Favorite Star Wars movie: The Empire Strikes Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I prefer [i]Star Wars[/i], so I see [b]Apo[/b]'s point - not everyone has to take [i]Star Wars: An Ewok Adventure[/i] seriously, and in fact, few do. Or the novels. Or the animated Clone Wars. Or the video games. Or the comic books. They all take place in the Star Wars universe, and are officially sanctioned, but that doesn't mean fans need to accept them. And there are probably people who do not consider the prequel trilogy to be part of Star Wars, either - they liked the original trilogy, and that is the story to them. Star Trek is also a spralling franchise, so you can pick and choose. I was only interested in [i]The Next Generation[/i] and the movies. I saw maybe one episode of DS9, a few more than that of Voyager, and a couple of the Original series. I've never seen an episode of [i]Enterprise[/i], and don't plan to change that. I don't think I ever watched [i]Nemesis[/i], either. Recently, I've been watching the original series, since they're all available online (free and legal) - check youtube or cbs or veoh. Each new incarnation has its fans and detractors. You can pick what you like and ignore the rest. I consider the 'reboot' to be a new incarnation, just as TNG, DS9 and Voyager were. The only people who care about 'canon' within the story are fans, and there are many nuances to what counts and what doesn't. Since the reboot establishes itself as an AU of the original series, it takes place in parallel to the original storyline. It does not replace it, nor does it match it. Star Trek has always incorporated parallel universes. There was a TNG episode where Worf bounced around to a zillion different Enterprises - in one, Troi was his wife, while in another, the Borg had all but defeated the Federation. And 'Mirror, Mirror' in the original series showed an alternate reality where the Federation was the Empire, and much more warlike and barbaric (Spock was mostly the same, but with a gotee). And there was the storyline with the Enterprise C, variations of which resulted in Tasha Yarr's half-Romulan daughter. And according to Memory Alpha, there was a DS9 episode about some sort of alternative timeline as well. For obvious reasons, all of these were sidelines and the point was to get back to the 'real' time and story. This allowed the crew a glimpse of the alternate reality, but the show went back to normal the next week. This reboot is just following the parallel reality instead. If they really wanted to, they could even work on getting back to the 'real' timeline in a future movie (though I seriously doubt that is their intent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Guess. [spoiler]Just incase you can't tell by the avatar, I'm a Star Wars fanatic. I voted ESB. "I find your lack of faith, disturbing."[/spoiler] Edited May 22, 2009 by Paladin D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I wonder how long until they start screwing up the young Star Trek characters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1873317' date='May 22 2009, 04:14 PM']I wonder how long until they start screwing up the young Star Trek characters?[/quote] What exactly do you mean by "screwing up?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 My favorite line is, "When you make a machine to do the work of a man, you lessen the man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vinny Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1865373' date='May 12 2009, 03:01 PM']Not really. Whether it is a part or not is up to the individual viewer. What is Paramount going to do, sue me for not holding that the new film is part of the 43 year old Star Trek story? [/quote] You'll be branded a [i]Trek[/i] heretic for denying an official part of the [i]Trek[/i] canon. Then, with your limited canon separated from Paramount tradition, you will find like-minded Trekkies and found the Apotheounites. After this, a small group will raise contention that the '70's animated series should be included in the canon and split off, and so on, and so forth, [i]ad infinitum, ad nauseum.[/i] You don't really want to go down in history as [i]Star Trek[/i] fandom's Martin Luther, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1874713' date='May 24 2009, 11:17 PM']You'll be branded a [i]Trek[/i] heretic for denying an official part of the [i]Trek[/i] canon. Then, with your limited canon separated from Paramount tradition, you will find like-minded Trekkies and found the Apotheounites. After this, a small group will raise contention that the '70's animated series should be included in the canon and split off, and so on, and so forth, [i]ad infinitum, ad nauseum.[/i] You don't really want to go down in history as [i]Star Trek[/i] fandom's Martin Luther, do you?[/quote] I'm what would be called an Old Believer in Russian Orthodoxy. Edited May 25, 2009 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 [quote name='MithLuin' post='1870950' date='May 19 2009, 11:19 PM']they're all [b]available online (free and legal)[/b] - check youtube or cbs or veoh.[/quote] Really? I didn't know! Thanks. Would it be also legal to download them to my hard disk, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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