So Why Isn't The Pope Saying Anything About The Notre Dame Debacle

[reelguy227]

What's the reason??? I have yet to figure it out.....

You'd think if he'd say something that that would show that the Church is wholly and truly against Obama's appearance. It seems like a missed opportunity for the Church to really draw the line on College's and Catholics who directly or indirectly support abortion.

[CatherineM]

Everytime he tries to say something definitive, his secretaries "qualify" his remarks the next day. I was pretty mad that happened when asked about denying pro-choice politicians communion. It's like they've got him on a short leash or something.

[reelguy227]

Wait what? Like soften his remarks? If so, that's really retarded and they shouldn't be doing that.

[CatherineM]

They "qualify" them. The "explain" them. If all else fails they can blame it on a translation.

[reelguy227]

I'm just really upset about this whole thing and wish the Church would strip Notre Dame of its Catholic status. Because it doesn't deserve it after this travesty.

[Era Might]

The Universal Church does not revolve around the United States. The Holy Father could say a million things about a million things around the world. That's why we have local Bishops.

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='Era Might' post='1868812' date='May 16 2009, 04:13 PM']The Universal Church does not revolve around the United States. The Holy Father could say a million things about a million things around the world. That's why we have local Bishops.[/quote]

I agree. Statements have been made in the past about pro-choice politicians, it should be clear that those same remarks apply in cases like this as well.

[princessgianna]

[quote name='Era Might' post='1868812' date='May 16 2009, 02:13 PM']The Universal Church does not revolve around the United States. The Holy Father could say a million things about a million things around the world. That's why we have local Bishops.[/quote]
That what I always thought!

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

The Pope has too much else to do. There are issues of dissent happening all over the world all the time. It may seem like a big deal here, but the Pope and most of the Church aren't getting things like Cardinal Newman Society emails everyday, etc.

Second, it worries me that so many Catholics seem to want Notre Dame's blood. There are a million good things going on at this university. Stripping it of its Catholic status would alienate a huge number of students and faculty studying not only theology, but a number of other disciplines in service to the Church. I am happy to have the support of so many outside Catholic and pro-life groups, but I don't think they always accurately portray our university and some of the efforts have been detrimental to the students cause here on campus.

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='thedude' post='1868834' date='May 16 2009, 04:36 PM']The Pope has too much else to do. There are issues of dissent happening all over the world all the time. It may seem like a big deal here, but the Pope and most of the Church aren't getting things like Cardinal Newman Society emails everyday, etc.

Second, it worries me that so many Catholics seem to want Notre Dame's blood. There are a million good things going on at this university. Stripping it of its Catholic status would alienate a huge number of students and faculty studying not only theology, but a number of other disciplines in service to the Church. I am happy to have the support of so many outside Catholic and pro-life groups, but I don't think they always accurately portray our university and some of the efforts have been detrimental to the students cause here on campus.[/quote]

I don't necessarily think that ND should be stripped of Catholic status, but I think maybe they should take a hint. Yesterday on the news they said that 60% of Catholics polled didn't think Obama should be getting the honors he is from the Uni.

[puellapaschalis]

There's at least one Dutch university which is/was, at least in name, Catholic, and built from the donations of many many Catholics from early on in the previous century (for many of those it was a sacrifice, just as for many people donating to a church building fund was also a sacrifice), and which is now more or less completely secularised and has tossed away all vestiges of Catholicism.

Whether they ever had official Catholic status I don't know, but the Popes certainly didn't make comments about them supporting pro-choice points of view.

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='reelguy227' post='1868312' date='May 15 2009, 09:37 PM']What's the reason??? I have yet to figure it out.....[/quote]

Maybe he's tied up with things in the Holy Land...


Seriously, though, I agree with the other posters about certain things being the responsibility and duty of the local bishops.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Era Might' post='1868812' date='May 16 2009, 03:13 PM']The Universal Church does not revolve around the United States. The Holy Father could say a million things about a million things around the world. That's why we have local Bishops.[/quote]
That's what I said in another thread on this very subject! I guess great minds think alike.

[N/A Gone]

[quote name='Era Might' post='1868812' date='May 16 2009, 03:13 PM']The Universal Church does not revolve around the United States. The Holy Father could say a million things about a million things around the world. That's why we have local Bishops.[/quote]

Why has the local Bishop not spoke out?

Let me make sure I understand. We are upset he is getting the award, not because he is speaking, right? Because I do not remember a big deal about Bush speaking there. Personally both should have not spoke, but I just want a better grip of the issue.

Big question would be if the Bishop does speak out against it, would Notre beaver dam do anything?

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1868841' date='May 16 2009, 02:42 PM']I don't necessarily think that ND should be stripped of Catholic status, but I think maybe they should take a hint. Yesterday on the news they said that 60% of Catholics polled didn't think Obama should be getting the honors he is from the Uni.[/quote]
I agree. Everyone should come out to the peaceful student run protests tomorrow.
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[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1869107' date='May 16 2009, 09:53 PM']Why has the local Bishop not spoke out?

Let me make sure I understand. We are upset he is getting the award, not because he is speaking, right? Because I do not remember a big deal about Bush speaking there. Personally both should have not spoke, but I just want a better grip of the issue.

Big question would be if the Bishop does speak out against it, would Notre beaver dam do anything?[/quote]
Bishop D'Arcy has been quite vocal, along with a long list of other American bishops.