I'm Going To Talk About Nd

[kujo]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1871101' date='May 19 2009, 04:58 PM']Pray, tell, where have I judged Lost's heart?

Exactly.

I haven't- you simply have read this into my statements. Stating that one is acquiescing to evil is not akin to judging one's heart. Such a statement is descriptive of her actions, and not her intent. Please also note that I mentioned that Lot may not (paraphrased) "realise she is doing this or not."
[mod]personal attack - Lil Red[/mod]


Now what would be the point of doing this on a Catholic forum?



Funny, your words implied just this. Perhaps you ought to read over your previous statements and observe how you elevate one enjoying their graduation day over speaking on behalf of the 47 million unborn who have no voice.



Your opinion solely. Thankfully, those who fought for the abolition of slavery and the martyrs who laid their lives down for the faith didn't take such a "girly man" approach [mod]personal attack - Lil Red[/mod][/quote]

Pax, sis. You are not worth the trouble.

[lost_in_this_world]

wow ariaane i read your posts and find it ridiculous. i think your harsh attitude and rude accusations about me and my position is the reason why the debate is going on. instead of listening to ones opinion you decided to attack back and turn people off. you seem to be the type of person that gives pro lifers a bad rap about protests. and you seem to be exactly how i dont want to be when discussing abortion. what happened to love because you seem to have a lot of hate.


you seem to have this above all, im higher than you attitude and thats unfortunate.

you make accusations that i would be pro slavery. no im not. your approach is what turns people away and silly me to think that i may be able to voice an opinion on here and not get shot at. there is a way to peacefully disagree and to have each opinion be heard but what you are doing is rude and immature. your actions on this post are the reason why some many people are turned away from the pro life movement. act with love not hate.

[ariaane]

[quote name='kujo' post='1871107' date='May 19 2009, 10:08 PM']Pax, sis. You are not worth the trouble.[/quote]

Translated as: I embellished when initially responding to Ariaane's post so I'll covertly concede defeat.

[kujo]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1871117' date='May 19 2009, 05:18 PM']Translated as: I embellished when initially responding to Ariaane's post so I'll covertly concede defeat.[/quote]

Translate as you wish.

[ariaane]

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']wow ariaane i read your posts and find it ridiculous.[/quote]

If you make such a statement, then you ought to back it up with sufficient evidence. I am yet to see this.
[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']i think your harsh attitude and rude accusations about me and my position is the reason why the debate is going on.[/quote]

Did you not consider Kujo's initial and unwarranted attack on the "boringness" of my post harsh and rude? If so, why have you not made reference to this?


[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']instead of listening to ones opinion you decided to attack back and turn people off.[/quote]

Translated as: You won't submit to my point of view so that is tantamount to "not listening".

Yes, this type of debating is so played out already that it has been rendered ineffective.

I listened to what you said and I responded. Only my viewpoint is not to your personal liking.

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']you seem to be the type of person that gives pro lifers a bad rap about protests.[/quote]

Yep, it must be pro lifers like me that have helped (even though in a very small way) bring about a world which is slowly, but surely, bending pro life and realising the gravity of abortion.

As you make judgements about me, let me return the favour: It is "pro lifers" like you who have given birth to the attitude which caused the scandal which took place in ND and which has caused CINO's to argue abortion to be a lesser issue than the DP, war and other issues.

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']and you seem to be exactly how i dont want to be when discussing abortion. what happened to love because you seem to have a lot of hate.[/quote]

[b][color="#000080"]Luke 12: 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;

Luke 12: 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.

Luke 12: 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
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[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']you seem to have this above all, im higher than you attitude and thats unfortunate.[/quote]

If you say so.

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871112' date='May 19 2009, 10:11 PM']you make accusations that i would be pro slavery.[/quote]

Care to point to where I have accused you of being pro slavery?

PS- When pro abortion people approach me, I am rather charitable to them as long as they present their argument without deception.

It is the so called "pro lifers" within the pro life movement and the Christian body who do more to aide the pro abortion lobby through their lukewarmness and acquiescing to evil who warrant the tone of my response.

Edited May 19, 2009 by ariaane

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1871122' date='May 19 2009, 03:33 PM']Yep, it must be pro lifers like me that have helped (even though in a very small way) bring about a world which is slowly, but surely, bending pro life and realising the gravity of abortion.

As you make judgements about me, let me return the favour: It is "pro lifers" like you who have given birth to the attitude which caused the scandal which took place in ND and which has caused CINO's to argue abortion to be a lesser issue than the DP, war and other issues.



[b][color="#000080"]Luke 12: 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;

Luke 12: 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.

Luke 12: 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
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I agree with this 100% IT's what I was getting at, but you have put it in even better words than I.

The trouble with the pro-life movement is the divisiveness, brought upon by people who wish to "play nice" with the abortionists and who fail to recognize that [i]our enemy is Evil, himself[/i]. There's no playing with the devil, and it looks like ND has embraced him, and that school has sold it's soul out to the "political correctness" and "tolerance" that cripples the pro-life movement...

[ariaane]

[quote name='kujo' post='1871119' date='May 19 2009, 10:22 PM']Translate as you wish. [/quote]

I will.

[ariaane]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1871125' date='May 19 2009, 10:38 PM']I agree with this 100% IT's what I was getting at, but you have put it in even better words than I.[/quote]

Thanks, but I didn't put it any way. It was [b][color="#FF0000"]Jesus [/color][/b]who said the aforementioned things.

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1871125' date='May 19 2009, 10:38 PM']The trouble with the pro-life movement is the divisiveness, brought upon by people who wish to "play nice" with the abortionists and who fail to recognize that [i]our enemy is Evil, himself[/i]. There's no playing with the devil, and it looks like ND has embraced him, and that school has sold it's soul out to the "political correctness" and "tolerance" that cripples the pro-life movement...[/quote]

Exactly.

That some pro life people don't wish to display graphic images of abortion during a protest does not bother me.

That some pro life people consider protesting in any shape or form rude and silly, [b]even if it is peaceful[/b], during the most pro abortionist president's speech at a Catholic instution is what irritates me.

Maybe the man who stood up and shouted in the crowd didn't do the pro life side a favour.

However, had he and others stood up and started reciting the Hail Mary or Prayer for the Unborn in a dignified and peaceful manner during Obama's speech, the likes of Lost and Kujo would still object to this, as they have clearly said that the day was for the graduates and so should be without disruption.

If I'm a part of a football team, I do not wish for my team to be comprised of team members who wish to help the opposing team, and who go even as far to score an own goal.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1871135' date='May 19 2009, 03:52 PM']That some pro life people don't wish to display graphic images of abortion during a protest does not bother me.

That some pro life people consider protesting in any shape or form rude and silly, [b]even if it is peaceful[/b], during the most pro abortionist president's speech at a Catholic instution is what irritates me.

Maybe the man who stood up and shouted in the crowd didn't do the pro life side a favour.

However, had he and others stood up and started reciting the Hail Mary or Prayer for the Unborn in a dignified and peaceful manner during Obama's speech, the likes of Lost and Kujo would still object to this, as they have clearly said that the day was for the graduates and so should be without disruption.

If I'm a part of a football team, I do not wish for my team to be comprised of team members who wish to help the opposing team, and who go even as far to score an own goal.[/quote]

[lost_in_this_world]

dont you dare connect me to evil again. you really help drive the pro life movement apart. your assumptions about me are laughable.



so quick to criticize i see...

[ariaane]

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871146' date='May 19 2009, 11:18 PM']dont you dare connect me to evil again.[/quote]

[mod]personal attack - Lil Red[/mod]

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871146' date='May 19 2009, 11:18 PM']you really help drive the pro life movement apart.[/quote]

Must I repost Jesus's quotes (which you so conveniently overlooked)?

I might say also, that the tone of the above comes across as rather...."hateful".

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871146' date='May 19 2009, 11:18 PM']your assumptions about me are laughable.[/quote]

Funny, as the tone I sense in your response does not seem to ring with comical laughter...

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1871146' date='May 19 2009, 11:18 PM']so quick to criticize i see...[/quote]

Methinks that is a rather accurate description of yourself.

If you don't like "judgement" then refrain from "judging" me.

Please note that I never initially judged your character, but your [b]actions[/b]. Never did I judge your intentions, and if you read back, you will notice that I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t [i]intentionally[/i] aiding the pro abortion crowd with your stance.

And before I close, might I add that I've noted that you have not addressed a single one of my questions or points.

You simply find recourse to ad hominem, eg.. calling me "hateful", and vacuous rhetoric which do not make for sound argument. This tactic is rather typical of the loony left and Obama, which is why I now understand why you think his ND speech was "classy".

[puellapaschalis]

Since when is President Obama "the devil himself"?

[dominicansoul]

in the same light as hitler was the devil, stalin was the devil, and every other being who was in a position of power and used that power to slaughter millions

[Maggyie]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1871172' date='May 19 2009, 07:00 PM']in the same light as hitler was the devil, stalin was the devil, and every other being who was in a position of power and used that power to slaughter millions[/quote]

Whoa whoa whoa, Obama is not quite on the same level as Hitler or Stalin. He does not directly order abortion the way they ordered murders, he just believes that murder should be allowable. The difference is that Hitler and Stalin were murderers "in fact," Obama contemplates murder only "in principle." Which is still bad but the distinction is important.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Maggie' post='1871219' date='May 19 2009, 05:54 PM']Whoa whoa whoa, Obama is not quite on the same level as Hitler or Stalin. He does not directly order abortion the way they ordered murders, he just believes that murder should be allowable. The difference is that Hitler and Stalin were murderers "in fact," Obama contemplates murder only "in principle." Which is still bad but the distinction is important.[/quote]

The distinction is not that important. Because the result is the same, genocide. America is vastly more wicked and evil that Nazi Germany, because she has murdered millions more.