CatherineM Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I realized that it would make 6 Catholics on the court. What's wrong with this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 That it's not a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1876624' date='May 27 2009, 01:45 PM']That it's not a picture?[/quote] It can still tell 1,000 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1876624' date='May 27 2009, 12:45 PM']That it's not a picture?[/quote] You're slipping. Your quips are usually much sharper. Low blood sugar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 [quote name='Didacus' post='1876541' date='May 27 2009, 10:46 AM']Your comments are very enlightful, are you sure you're not a political major? Remember, then don't hate only you, they hate us. Stand tall, stand strong, be faithful. no one is in this alone.[/quote] Nah, not political science-- Philosophy major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' post='1876522' date='May 27 2009, 09:03 AM']Do we even know she doesn't uphold the Church's teachings? It seems like we're equating liberal and activist with necessarily rejecting the Church's teachings on matters of public policy. Don't jump the gun here folks. I know Socrates was probably getting excited to bash whoever Obama appointed, but we can still maintain some rational thought nonetheless..[/quote] Pro-life liberals are basically unheard of in positions of high power, no? Obama isn't going to nominate a pro-life judge. Granted we don't know a lot about her, but I feel pretty comfortable saying she won't be a friend of the pro-life movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='XIX' post='1876846' date='May 27 2009, 09:09 PM']Pro-life liberals are basically unheard of in positions of high power, no? Obama isn't going to nominate a pro-life judge. Granted we don't know a lot about her, but I feel pretty comfortable saying she won't be a friend of the pro-life movement.[/quote] True. In fact, I'd seriously bet my entire bank account that she's no pro-lifer. Putting a pro-lifer in the SCOTUS would be contrary to everything Obama's done in the past. Those who think Obama & Co. are friends of the pro-life cause are deluding themselves. Sotomayer has made a statement to the effect that judges should in fact legislate from the bench (someone else can look it up - I don't have much time now). It's this whole liberal activist "legislating from the bench" without respect for the actual law that brought us Roe v. Wade in the first place, and the last thing our country needs is more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='Socrates' post='1876850' date='May 27 2009, 08:15 PM']Those who think Obama & Co. are friends of the pro-life cause are deluding themselves.[/quote] ..and sadly, there is a lot of delusion amongst Catholics on this..... the more obama outright lies and tells the world that he's for a "reduction" of abortions, the more "Catholics" will justify voting for the man in the next election... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1877165' date='May 28 2009, 08:49 AM'] ..and sadly, there is a lot of delusion amongst Catholics on this..... the more obama outright lies and tells the world that he's for a "reduction" of abortions, the more "Catholics" will justify voting for the man in the next election...[/quote] Not if Hockey-Mom can help it! (I can make a comic book hero out of that!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='XIX' post='1876846' date='May 27 2009, 09:09 PM']Pro-life liberals are basically unheard of in positions of high power, no? Obama isn't going to nominate a pro-life judge. Granted we don't know a lot about her, but I feel pretty comfortable saying she won't be a friend of the pro-life movement.[/quote] I'm not saying at all that he's going to nominate a pro-life judge. I got into this little convo with someone on Jill Stanek's site too.. If I were a betting man, I would bet that she is in fact not by any means pro-life. But we need to define "friend of the pro-life movement" more cautiously. She ruled in our favor more than once in her +15 year career. Other than that, she hasn't really ruled on the issue. My sentiments are that we shouldn't alienate her by implying that she is willing to kill unborn babies with her bare hands just because she is an activist judge and that Roe v. Wade was an activist decision. Just because Roe v. Wade is a form of judicial activism doesn't mean that all judicial activists support Roe v. Wade. And the fact that she is a judicial activist seems to be the only real evidence that some (including Socrates) are using to say that she is against the pro-life movement. There are other ways of gauging how much she is on our side, like the reversing and remanding of the case that was ruled against the pro-lifers. Why is this not a good mark on her record? I'm not saying we should all jump on her bandwagon, but come on folks, some of the logic you're using to oppose her here is bogus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'm sorry to go slightly off topic, but the point of "reducing" abortions is ridiculous. Killing is killing, whether it's one abortion or a million abortions it's wrong. That's the problem I have with wishy washy people like Obama who say he wants to "reduce" the numbers. (Although I feel he doesn't care if they go down dramatically or not.) Ok sorry, back to topic. As far as her comments of Courts making policy here is the youtube clip: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q[/url] I'm sure this has been stated earlier, but Obama is not a dumb man by picking Judge Sonia. She hasn't ruffled too many feathers one way or the other. She's a female and a latina which puts the republicans in an even greater disadvantage to try and oppose this pick, and we'll just have to see how it all plays out. One thing I've learned being in the Pro-Life movement is that we have to look to ourselves to change this. We have to begin in our communitites and changing the hearts and minds of the people around us. We obviously can't rely on the Govt. to settle this for us. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='RemnantRules' post='1877202' date='May 28 2009, 10:26 AM']I'm sorry to go slightly off topic, but the point of "reducing" abortions is ridiculous. Killing is killing, whether it's one abortion or a million abortions it's wrong. That's the problem I have with wishy washy people like Obama who say he wants to "reduce" the numbers. (Although I feel he doesn't care if they go down dramatically or not.) Ok sorry, back to topic.[/quote] that's just more liberal riggamorole rhetoric that convinces the lax Catholics that obama is actually doing a good thing... [quote]One thing I've learned being in the Pro-Life movement is that we have to look to ourselves to change this. We have to begin in our communitites and changing the hearts and minds of the people around us. We obviously can't rely on the Govt. to settle this for us. God Bless[/quote] amen. that's why we need to stop making enemies out of the Catholics who aren't afraid to speak the truth on the matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Socrates' post='1876850' date='May 27 2009, 10:15 PM']Sotomayer has made a statement to the effect that judges should in fact legislate from the bench (someone else can look it up - I don't have much time now). It's this whole liberal activist "legislating from the bench" without respect for the actual law that brought us Roe v. Wade in the first place, and the last thing our country needs is more of the same.[/quote] Yeah, I saw that video clip of her saying that. But from what I gather, the context of the statement changes its meaning a bit. She was discussing the difference between serving on the court of appeals and whatever her prior position was. And she said that the difference was that policy is made on the court of appeals. You can, on one hand, say Congress makes the law and the court interprets it. But on the other hand the law is not always clear. And in clarifying those laws, the courts make policy. More concerning to me is her belief that her ethnic heritage could/should inform her judicial decision making. THAT is some scary stuff. Can you imagine what would've been said if Alito or Roberts had said that being a white guy should influence the way they rule on cases? Oh man... Edited May 28, 2009 by kujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) ...from what i've read, it looks like ms. sotomayer is making things a little uneasy for pro-abortion groups! She apparently ruled in favor of the pro-life position in three different court cases.... [url="http://www.lifenews.com/int1210.html"]http://www.lifenews.com/int1210.html[/url] Edited May 29, 2009 by dominicansoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 We have to remember also that it is common for Justices when they reach the Supreme Court to completely change how they rule on cases. They know they can't be fired, and do what they want, or they simply understand more deeply how important their decisions will now be, and look deeper at the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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