Archaeology cat Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 OK, just read this in another post, emphasis mine [quote]I'm sure she knew that the form of baptism is "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" when she watched the video, but she might not have known that the water has to be applied while the words are said (some Protetant groups will say[b] "I baptize you..." then immerse the person, which, I'm pretty sure, would be invalid[/b])[/quote] Is it truly invalid if the proper formula is used, and water is used, but the person is just immersed the once? Like "I baptise you, N, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit (immerse)". Just curious, as most Baptists I know perform baptisms like that, and if that is invalid, then most Baptists have an invalid baptism. I personally had never heard of that being a requirement for a valid baptism before, thus why I'm curious (especially since my own baptism followed that pattern). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 In the Documents of the Church it says RCIA :205. BAPTISM: Immediately after their profession of living faith in Christ’s paschal mystery, the elect come forward and receive that mystery as expressed in the washing with water; thus once the elect have professed faith in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, invoked by the celebrant, the divine persons act so that those they have chosen receive divine adoption and become members of the people of God. 206. Therefore in the celebration of baptism the washing with water should take on its full importance as the sign of that mystical sharing in Christ’s death and resurrection through which those who believe in his name die to sin and rise to eternal life. Either immersion or the pouring of water should be chosen for the rite, whichever will serve in individual cases and in the various traditions and circumstances to ensure the clear understanding that this washing is not a mere purification rite but the sacrament of being joined to Christ. Rite for children: 18. 1. The celebration of the sacrament is immediately preceded by: a) the solemn prayer of the celebrant, who, by invoking God and recalling his plan of salvation, blesses the water of baptism or commemorates its previous blessing; b) the renunciation of Satan on the part of parents and godparents, and their profession of faith, to which is added the assent of the celebrant and the community; and the final interrogation of the parents and godparents. 2. The celebration of the sacrament is performed by washing in water, by way of immersion or infusion, according to local custom, and by the invocation of the blessed Trinity. Canon Law: Can. 849 Baptism, the gateway to the sacraments, is necessary for salva-tion, either by actual reception or at least by desire. By it people are freed from sins, are born again as children of God and, made like to Christ by an indelible character, are incorporated into the Church. It is validly conferred only by a washing in real water with the proper form of words. I cannot see in these douments anything to support thr argument put forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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