StColette Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 The bells at the Cathedral of Christ the King in Phoenix, Arizona, normally chime at the top of every hour from 8 am to 8 pm. But neighbours complained that the bells, which were registered at around 67 decibels, or about as loud as a normal conversation, were too loud, and rang too frequently. Bishop Richard Painter was given a 10-day suspended sentence and the judge ordered the church to restrict its chimes to no more than 60 decibels on Sundays for two minutes and on specific religious holidays. more [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5446028/US-bishop-sentenced-for-church-bell-noise.html"]Here[/url] Another article Phoenix bishop sentenced in bell-ringing case Associated Press - June 4, 2009 10:24 AM ET PHOENIX (AP) - A Phoenix church leader has received a suspended 10-day jail sentence for violating a city noise ordinance because of his church's bells. Bishop Richard Painter says he'll appeal. more [url="http://www.kswt.com/Global/story.asp?S=10477525&nav=menu613_2_6"]Here[/url] This was on the news yesterday morning and sure enough we received a call at the parish where I work. Someone called to complain about our Church bells ringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcts Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 my bet is that the church was there before any of these people moved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Must not be a Catholic bishop...can't find his name on the USCCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Most definitely not catholic. [url="http://www.cctkaz.com/"]http://www.cctkaz.com/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 People in AZ are so cranky and grumpy and quick to pick a fight about anything. Look at John McCain, for example. Must be the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I believe he's an Anglican Bishop, but still ... come on folks there are more important things to worry about then some bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Bishop Olmstead is the Catholic bishop of Phoenix.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 No I do not think he is anglican. Nothing on the website refers to the church belonging to a denomination. Other wesbite only refer to this church as "charismatic." So I am guessing this man is a bishop in the same way that TD Jakes is a Bishop.. meaning his church has "planted" other churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I don't think it matters if he's Catholic, Anglican, or Baptist. The fact that he's being put in jail over bells is stupid. This is what their "Diocesan" website says: The Diocese of the South Central is a group of ministers and congregations in the Communion of Christ the Redeemer, a fellowship of Christians who embrace “The Three Streams” of the Christian Faith: Bible Believing, Spirit Filled and Sacramental. Please make yourself at home while visiting our website, and feel free to give us a call or send us an email for further information. The Communion of Christ the Redeemer is currently in dialogue about union with: The Reformed Episcopal Church The Anglican Province of America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 He doesnt actually have to serve time in jail...which is good. But for him to have a criminal record at all is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Okay, we've established that he's not Catholic. Yeah...the bells are as loud as ordinary talking and he's been sentenced? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='StColette' post='1887211' date='Jun 9 2009, 08:01 PM']I don't think it matters if he's Catholic, Anglican, or Baptist. The fact that he's being put in jail over bells is stupid.[/quote] Agreed. I, for one, love hearing church bells. Our Cathedral rings their bells on Sundays, but I don't know about other days. The closest Anglican parish to us also rings the bells on Sundays, and I love it, since I can hear it in my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1887254' date='Jun 9 2009, 04:11 PM']Agreed. I, for one, love hearing church bells. Our Cathedral rings their bells on Sundays, but I don't know about other days. The closest Anglican parish to us also rings the bells on Sundays, and I love it, since I can hear it in my house. [/quote] Ours ring at the top of every hour starting at 8 or 9 and ending at 8pm each day. At Noon the Angelus plays and at 3:00 the Divine Mercy and on Sunday and Saturday they ring for Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Here a parish priest was hauled (not literally) to court for ringing bells in the morning to call people to Mass - 7:30am I think it was. Never mind the fact that the church was there before any of the houses were (although the bells hadn't been rung for years) and that there's an elevated highway really (as in really) close by. Because they have no guts, the diocese told him to stop ringing the bells. He still kept on ringing them. I'm not sure what's happening now - although knowing him he's still ringing them every day before Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='StColette' post='1887265' date='Jun 9 2009, 05:18 PM']Ours ring at the top of every hour starting at 8 or 9 and ending at 8pm each day. At Noon the Angelus plays and at 3:00 the Divine Mercy and on Sunday and Saturday they ring for Mass.[/quote] As do churchbells all over the country with little or no complaints... and CERTAINLY without jail time. My guess is that the neighbors have some other qualms with the church and they are using this as way to get back at them. That is jsut speculation of course but it would explain why they are making a mountain of a mole hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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