Worldly Television, Films, Series And Video Games Is Sinful

[Guest]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='08 October 2009 - 03:57 PM' timestamp='1255031840' post='1981098']
+J.M.J.+
i can name three songs that i've heard lately that made me think of God:
-"Fallin' for You" by Colbie Caillat
[b]-"Bleedin' Love" by Leona Lewis[/b]
-"Need you Now" by Lady Antebellum
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bleedin love for sure. great song.

[Hietanen]

[quote name='Kitty' date='12 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255312512' post='1983521']
You need to grow up. And don't whine about me judging you and then call me a liar. You're a hypocrite.[/quote]

No you are the hypocrite, and I can prove it quite easily. You said death note was fantastic and that it was nothing wrong with it, when I told you plainly that it was evil and that I knew it was evil because I have seen it you judged me falsely and lied by saying I have not watched, then you went on to defend it.
To end the discussion I proved that it was evil by quoting the story line, you however, completely ignored it, making the laughable excuse below.


[quote name='Kitty' date='12 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255312512' post='1983521']
I don't remember any nudity in Death Note. Obviously YOU did, though, so...[/quote]

[u]I never mentioned any particular anime serie which contained nudity in that context you quoted[/u]. What I did write to [b][u]you specifically [/u][u]on death note[/u] [/b]was this quote below that you completely ignored. Thus proving yet again that you are a bad willed dishonest liar.

[b]Death note is a series that[/b] ..."centers on Light Yagami, a university student who discovers a supernatural notebook, the "Death Note", dropped on Earth by a shinigami ([u]death god[/u]) named Ryuk. [u]The Death Note grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose face they have seen[/u], by writing the victim's name in the notebook. After meeting with the previous owner of the Death Note, a shinigami named Ryuk, Light seeks to [u]become "the God of the New World" by passing his keen judgment on those he deems to be evil or who get in his way.[/u]"


[quote name='Kitty' date='12 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255312512' post='1983521']
It sounds like you're watching the typical pornographic anime because none of the anime I've watched is like that.[/quote]

Yes I have watched pornographic anime, I have done many grave sins in my life. But those are not the ones I am referring too. Just as many television shows and worldly films contains pornographic scenes, so too many anime series contains pornographic immodest scenes. The bad will in peoples hearts are the cause of misunderstandments, for if people would be of good will and be willing to change from their evil sinful ways, one would not need to explain what to honest people are all to obvious.


[quote name='Kitty' date='12 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255312512' post='1983521']
What do you have against shirtless ugly men who aren't real and are ANIMATED DRAWINGS...just don't watch it, dude.[/quote]

That was not the only point. Magic, superpowers, violence, constant fighting, immodest dress and tremendous prideful characters, what an excellent example for our kids... What a great way to learn them the broad way to hell.

Edited October 12, 2009 by Hietanen

[Jesus_lol]

well, my earlier calling into question was just answered for me.

you havent proved ANYTHING.

[Varg]

Hahah, Jesus_Lol. Just noticed your religion \m/

[Jesus_lol]

hehe thanks, i like them they are a good band. besides it's better than the united church i had listed, as im not really sure what denomination of christian i would be.

[Kitty]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='12 October 2009 - 01:16 PM' timestamp='1255367784' post='1983991']
No you are the hypocrite, and I can prove it quite easily. You said death note was fantastic and that it was nothing wrong with it, when I told you plainly that [b]it was evil and that I knew it was evil because I have seen it [/b]you judged me falsely and lied by saying I have not watched, then you went on to defend it.
To end the discussion I proved that it was evil by quoting the story line, you however, completely ignored it, making the laughable excuse below.[/quote]

That is not proof of anything. That is only your lame opinion.




[quote][u]I never mentioned any particular anime serie which contained nudity in that context you quoted[/u]. What I did write to [b][u]you specifically [/u][u]on death note[/u] [/b]was this quote below that you completely ignored. Thus proving yet again that you are a bad willed dishonest liar.[/quote]

I am not a "bad willed dishonest liar", whatever the hell that is. You need to get off your self righteous high horse.



[quote][b]Death note is a series that[/b] ..."centers on Light Yagami, a university student who discovers a supernatural notebook, the "Death Note", dropped on Earth by a shinigami ([u]death god[/u]) named Ryuk. [u]The Death Note grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose face they have seen[/u], by writing the victim's name in the notebook. After meeting with the previous owner of the Death Note, a shinigami named Ryuk, Light seeks to [u]become "the God of the New World" by passing his keen judgment on those he deems to be evil or who get in his way.[/u]" [/quote]

You should know that I don't find this shocking or appalling in any way, because it is simply the summary of the series. Big deal.




[quote]That was not the only point. Magic, superpowers, violence, constant fighting, immodest dress and tremendous prideful characters, what an excellent example for our kids... What a great way to learn them the broad way to hell.
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Oh yes, we're all going to hell.

Edited October 13, 2009 by Kitty

[Arpy]

Superpowers are the way to hell? But...my X-Men comics! D:

[Hietanen]

[quote name='Kitty' date='13 October 2009 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1255415416' post='1984472']
Youshould know that I don't find this shocking or appalling in any way,because it is simply the summary of the series. Big deal.[/quote]

Thatis because you don't know where you are heading. Even now when I gotyou to admit the evil plot you still defend this evil series, [u]in whomthe main character, take the role of god, deciding whom shall live ordie in the new world to be, created by him.

[b]
[/b][/u][size="3"][b]Isaiah 5:20. [i]Woe[/i] to those who [i]call evil good[/i], and [i]good evil[/i].[/b][/size]


[quote name='Kitty' date='13 October 2009 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1255415416' post='1984472']
That is not proof of anything. That is only your lame opinion.[/quote]


[quote name='Kitty' date='13 October 2009 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1255415416' post='1984472']
I am not a "bad willed dishonest liar", whatever the hell that is. You need to get off your self righteous high horse.[/quote]

You do not understand, because you are of bad will, that is why you are clueless.
I think you have proved what you are already to any honest person, that have any kind of understanding what is right or wrong to do according to the divine will of God.

I have tried to warned you people. No one who have read this thread can blame me for not having warned him in advance of these evils. May God enlighten your souls and draw you out of the world and its deceitful desires which are but air.

Peace be with you.

[Jesus_lol]

i can just see it now, as all of us burn in hell, we are going to be thinking "oh no, why didnt we listen to heitanen???"

take a hike.

[Didacus]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='25 September 2009 - 01:57 PM' timestamp='1253901432' post='1972643']
Christ Says: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is theKingdom of Heaven [Matthew 5:3]


All worldly television movies and series or anime is sinful, thesethings lead no to God but toward the world and the world pass away,your conscience testifies to this as well. You will also be tempted bythe sensual characters and scenes of impurity composed by the devil tomake the world lovers of pleasures and lovers of lust. If you want toreach the virtue of chastity, you must flee from what will give birthto impure thoughts and make you lust. You must not watch what can temptyou or drag you towards this world and its empty love.

Christian films however that is edifying to the soul and drags your thought to God can be good and edifying.

How many times have you not realized whilst doing somethingworldly, that a kind of fire is starting to burn within you? How manytimes has this not happened whilst watching a film, or anime, orplaying a video game or doing something other worldly which you maybeshouldn't do? This fire is strange fire and is not from God but fromthe world and the devil. Those whom offer up strange fire before theLord will perish.


Leviticus 10:1-2 " 1. And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron,took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incensethereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commandedthem not. 2 And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them,and they died before the LORD."


Not only will worldly movies and series and video games make youcold in the love of God since God is not of this world, it will alsomake God feel less important for you, since you more strive for theworldly enjoyments, and after watching something worldly or after youhave played video games, you might even feel ashamed of God and tospeak of God, and even the thought of God may make you feel awkward.This is justice, since you more find pleasure in what will pass, and,because you more embrace sin and more care of your own will then tofollow God's will saving souls. For none that waste his time on earthon worldly vanities will see God! There is a reason why all saintscompletely renounce everything that was from the world.




[Matthew 7:13-14] "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate iswide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are manywho enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow thatleads to life, and there are few who find it."
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What about postings on the internet?

[HisChildForever]

Death Note is AWESOME. I'm talking about the movies, not the anime.

[Theologian in Training]

Hietanen,

Are you arguing to prove a point or save a soul? If it is the latter, then your approach is not the most charitable way possible, nor is it showing you to profess what you believe, because, despite your own struggles, others may not have the same struggle. I am not trying to be a relativist, but to point out that not everything in the world is a sin, not everything someone does in the world is a sin, I have met my share of incredibly scrupulous people who believe it to be true, and it pains them that they can barely function, because everything they do, they think, is sinful.

You have obviously recently, by the grace of God, freed yourself from the sins of your past, but you are not convincing anyone that you are concerned with their soul, but, rather, seem to be trying to justify what you, possibly, may still be struggling with yourself. Your struggle is not everyone's, granted, everyone's struggle is for holiness, however, individually, each person, has their own cross to bear, their own struggles, that may or may not involve "worldly things."

I am not justifying anything, because, personally, I have never watched any anime, apart from Avatar, but if your truly concerned about someone, show why, rather, than damning them to Hell, out of hand. Granted, God does not want to lose souls, but I think you need to focus on your own soul, its own personal well-being, before you can have the strength to be concerned about another's. If you think you have the strength, read your past couple of posts and see if that is true.

Just an observation, take it or leave it.

God bless,

Fr. Brian

[Kitty]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='13 October 2009 - 10:27 AM' timestamp='1255444054' post='1984556']
Thatis because you don't know where you are heading. Even now when I gotyou to admit the evil plot you still defend this evil series, [u]in whomthe main character, take the role of god, deciding whom shall live ordie in the new world to be, created by him.
[b]
[/b][/u][size="3"][b]Isaiah 5:20. [i]Woe[/i] to those who [i]call evil good[/i], and [i]good evil[/i].[/b][/size][/quote]

Are you joking? "I got you to admit the evil plot"? You're insane. Absolutely insane. You should go back to your sign holding, Shirley Phelps.







[quote]You do not understand, because you are of bad will, that is why you are clueless.

[/quote]


You're talking, but all I hear is

[IMG]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n106/Joefoshoho/hurr_durr.jpg[/IMG]

Edited October 13, 2009 by Kitty

[Hietanen]

[quote name='Theologian in Training' date='13 October 2009 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1255448409' post='1984582']
Hietanen,

Are you arguing to prove a point or save a soul? If it is the latter, then your approach is not the most charitable way possible, nor is it showing you to profess what you believe, because, despite your own struggles, others may not have the same struggle.

You have obviously recently, by the grace of God, freed yourself from the sins of your past, but you are not convincing anyone that you are concerned with their soul, but, rather, seem to be trying to justify what you, possibly, may still be struggling with yourself.

I am not justifying anything, because, personally, I have never watched any anime, apart from Avatar, but if your truly concerned about someone, show why, rather, than damning them to Hell, out of hand. Granted, God does not want to lose souls, but I think you need to focus on your own soul, its own personal well-being, before you can have the strength to be concerned about another's. If you think you have the strength, read your past couple of posts and see if that is true.

Just an observation, take it or leave it.

God bless,

Fr. Brian
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You are absolutely right. I also admitted this weakness of my self in this thread somewhere, about me getting angry and seeming uncharitable in my ways, (which often happens with me when in my opinion, people refuse to acknowledge the obvious truth), this happens for I am prideful indeed, so I, just as you said, go on to prove a point instead of being charitable trying to help souls. Pride is the main object I am working to overcome at the moment, and, in my opinion, is the hardest to overcome, since pride stems from self love and an high opinion of one self, (but with God all is possible). Worldly sinful movies and series have I long gone overcome with the grace of God, now my struggles are the interior ones.

Please my dear friends, you are wasting precious time on these worldly vanities. Instead of watching sinful worldly shows you could spend time in prayer and spiritual reading benefiting yourself by trying to unite yourself with God. This is what give forth good fruit for your soul. These worldly entertainments was invented by the devil for one cause only, to draw your mind away from God towards this world. These things did not even exist before very recently, this is a sure sign of the times. When the Saints and Doctors of the Church proclaimed that fewness of the Saved, it was in times of Faith, when these worldly obstacles was not yet invented. What then, would they have had to say today, when many people more care of worldly enjoyments and having fun then to save his eternal soul, (which often times feel boring or hard, since the flesh is weak and in battle with the spirit). If you spent half of the time you wasted on prayer and reading instead, what would then become of you?, and what would be if you used all your time well for the benefit of your soul?



St. Louis De Montfort (+1710): "Blessed Alan de la Roche who was so deeply devoted to the Blessed Virgin had many revelations from her and we know that he confirmed the truth of these revelations by a solemn oath. Three of them stand out with special emphasis: the first, that if people failto say the 'Hail Mary' (the Angelic Salutation which has saved the world – Luke 1:28) out of carelessness, or because they are lukewarm, or because they hate it, this is a sign that they will probably and indeed shortly be condemned to eternal punishment."

Please pray the 15 decades of the Rosary daily (this can easily be done if you prioritize your eternal salvation before your base desires). Our Lady repeatedly emphasized the importance of praying the Rosary each day in her messages at Fatima. She even said that Francisco would have to pray 'many rosaries' before he could go to Heaven. You should prioritize reading the word of God and praying before other activities to grow in the spirit. Praying all 15 decades of the Rosary each day can be accomplished in a variety of ways. However,for many it is best accomplished by praying a part of the Rosary at different times of the day, for example, the joyful mysteries in the morning, sorrowful mysteries at midday, and glorious mysteries in the evening. 'Salve Regina' only needs to be prayed at the end of the entire day's rosary. An essential part of the Rosary is meditation on the mysteries, episodes in the life of Our Lord and Our Lady. This means thinking about them, visualizing them, considering the graces and merits displayed in them, and using them for inspiration to better know and love God. It is also common to focus on a particular virtue with each mystery.



St. Alphonsus (1760): "To a spiritual life the reading of holy books is perhaps not less useful than mental prayer. St. Bernard says reading instructs us at once in prayer, and in the practice of virtue. Hence he concluded that spiritual reading and prayer are the arms by which hell is conquered and paradise won… Hence St. Athanasius used to say that we find no one devoted to the service of the Lord that did not practice spiritual reading." (T.S.,p. 513)


Below is an interesting quote from St. Alphonsus concerning the idea of conversion to the Catholic Faith at the end of one's life. Although these types of conversions are possible, they are extremely rare. St. Alphonsus states that these types of conversions proceed out of necessity, and that it would be very difficult for God to pardon such a person:

He that lives in sin till death shall die in sin. "You shall die in your sin." (John 8:21.) It is true that, in whatsoever hour the sinner is converted, God promises to pardon him;but to no sinner has God promised the grace of conversion at the hour of death. "Seek the Lord while he may be found." (Isaiah 55:6.) Then, there is for some sinners a time when they shall seek God and shall not find him. "You shall seek me, and shall not find me." (John 7:34.) The unhappy beings will goto confession at the hour of death; they will promise and weep, and ask mercy of God, but without knowing what they do. A man who sees himself under the feet of a foe pointing a dagger to his throat, will shed tears, ask pardon, and promise to serve his enemy as a slave during the remainder of his life. But, will the enemy believe him? No; he will feel convinced that his words are not sincere–that his object is to escape from his hands, and that, should he be pardoned,he will become more hostile than ever. In like manner, how can God pardon the dying sinner, when he sees that all his acts of sorrow,and all his promises, proceed not from the heart, but from a dread of death and of approaching damnation." (Sermon 38: On the death of the sinner, par. 8)

[Innocent]

[quote name='Varg' date='30 September 2009 - 04:01 AM' timestamp='1254259866' post='1974471']
It's called
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But whatever.
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I've been trying to understand this till now but I still don't get it.... I must be very dense.