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Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, most health insurance plans will cover women’s preventive services, including contraception, without charging a co-pay or deductible beginning in August, 2012.  This new law will save money for millions of Americans and ensure American woman  nationwide get the high-quality abortions they need to stay healthy.


Covering contraception is cost neutral since it saves money  by keeping women healthy and preventing pregnancy.   

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/02/10/fact-sheet-women-s-preventive-services-and-religious-institutions

"If you need to know more, tune in," Pelosi said. "I may at some point be moved to explain biology to my colleagues."

Asked about Obama's new birth-control mandate, Pelosi left nothing to the imagination.

"I want to remove all doubt in anyone's mind where I am on this subject,".   "This is an issue about women's health, and I believe that women's health should be covered in all of the insurance plans." 
Nancy Pelosi

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Hay Nancy what about Health care  for the unborn ?

Edited by add, 16 February 2012 - 12:56 PM.

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i was just thinking of a great Double entendre Oxymoron: Planned Parenthood orphanage home

Is it just little disingenuous that a organization in the business of planning parenthood that it would not include orphanage placement in there criteria.   I mean really?

Edited by add, 29 February 2012 - 02:54 PM.

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Blunt’s amendment vote is today, it is doomed!

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WASHINGTON, D.C., March 2, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Under new guidelines issued by the Obama administration, immigration agents must provide taxpayer-funded abortion services, transportation to the abortion clinic, and transgender hormone therapy for illegal aliens awaiting deportation.
The policy overhaul is contained in the Performance-Based National Detention Standards (PBNDS) of 2011, issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a part of the Department of Homeland Security.

lovely

Edited by add, 03 March 2012 - 07:51 AM.

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Nobody is preventing Women from using or having access to birth control, But NOBODY should have to pay for someone else's birth control, you are confusing rights with handouts, and they are not the same thing. Students of Colleges run by Religious institutions, or employees of Religious institutions have a right to attend a different college, or work for a different company if they do not like the benefit package.
The morning after pill cannot treat endometriosis or a sist on an ovary. You'd have to go through surgery, which is reasonable for the tax payers to pay for, but contraceptives in this argument are totally irrelevant

[Winchester]

So if I need a surgery, I should be able to go take money from you to pay for it?

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Winchester, on 13 March 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

So if I need a surgery, I should be able to go take money from you to pay for it?

if you worked for me and  part of your salary included health insurance,  Damm straight I would (per a pre-employment agreement)

Edited by add, 13 March 2012 - 09:22 PM.

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We are also required for personally fund abortions: http://www.lifenews....ets-pro-lifers/

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People are absolutely confused about how insurance works.

A group of people pay money into a pool, managed by an insurance company.

Amount per person is based on "A" (anticipated pay-out in claims) + "P" (administrative costs including company profit) / [divided by] "G" (number of people in group) = INSURANCE PREMIUM.

As basic as that is, insurance companies have to predict the future in analyzing what the pay out is.  Of course, most people are paying more than they will get out, because most people won't have catastrophic needs.  Government mandating coverage (additional payout) is forcing the everyone ine the Group to pay for something the majority won't use and some have a personal moral problem with.

Government mandated insurance is coming that is going to force young healthy people become part of the Group in order to help pay for the older, more likely to use insurance payouts.  The second half (in order to control costs) is to regulate and limit what insurance issues pay outs for.  They'll make it seem great when you can waltz into the Dr. anytime you want for free, especially if you have kids.  However, when you're 70 and need cancer treatment, you'll have to jump through hoops to get timely and proper treatments.

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add, on 13 March 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

if you worked for me and  part of your salary included health insurance,  Damm straight I would (per a pre-employment agreement)

This isn't an agreement we're talking about.

add, on 11 March 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

...surgery, which is reasonable for the tax payers to pay for, but contraceptives in this argument are totally irrelevant

Taxes are not voluntary. They are obtained by force. This isn't an agreement between employee and employer. This is submission to a robber.

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 Show me the money used for paying the tax.” They brought him a dollar and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

 “Obama's" they replied.

   Then he said to them, “So give back to Obama's what is Obama's and to God what is God’s.”

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add, on 14 March 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

Show me the money used for paying the tax.” They brought him a dollar and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

“Obama's" they replied.

   Then he said to them, “So give back to Obama's what is Obama's and to God what is God’s.”

It is acceptable to comply with the threat by paying taxes. It is not compulsory to cooperate with evil.

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cmotherofpirl, on 14 March 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

We are also required for personally fund abortions: http://www.lifenews....ets-pro-lifers/

Abortion is a moral sin - therefor so is paying for it.