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This explains alot about modern church "music":


Earlier this year, just before FTM's trusty old computer crashed and died, FTM received a fascinating email (now irretrievable) on that old St. Louis Jesuit, and former priest, Dan Schutte, who is now publicly identified as a partnered gay man.

You know Dan Schutte: he's the composer whose music you hate to hear at Mass. And just think, every time you sing one of his copyrighted songs, published in the hymnals or monthly missalettes by Oregon Catholic Press (among others) in a half-dozen different languages, including Vietnamese, (e.g. "Glory & Praise," and Today's Missal), you are generating revenues for Dan's gay lifestyle.

There really oughta be a law against Catholic publishers publishing the songs and other writings of former priests living what most Catholics consider a scandalous lifestyle. (Dan, by the way, is also supported by the (Jesuit) University of San Francisco, where he is "composer in residence" and "director of music" for university ministries.

Schutte's most famous song, "Here I am, Lord" is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church, as the Los Angeles Tidings' Brenda Rees reported on February 9, 2001:

"'Here I am, Lord. Is it I, Lord? I have heard you calling in the night. I will go Lord if you lead me. I will hold your people in my heart.'

"The refrain of Dan Schutte's familiar opening refrain that filled St. Dominic Church in Eagle Rock Feb. 4 set the tone for the warm, almost-summer evening, where more than 400 people gathered to celebrate 15 years of the Ministry with Lesbian and Gay Catholics (MLGC).

"'Here I am, Lord' is, in ways, an unofficial motto for the ministry that has grown and found its place within not only the Los Angeles Archdiocese but also the cities and parishes where it has taken root. The MLGC encourages gay and lesbian Catholics to remain (or return to) their parishes to fully participate in the service and life of the church [sic].

"For all those involved in the MLGC - including supportive pastors, religious, lay members and leaders - the evening was indeed a celebration of endurance, strength and commitment. At the end of the Mass, the ministry's director, Carmelite Father Peter Liuzzi, thundered to the crowds, 'We have passed through the door. This is our jubilee year!'

"San Pedro Regional Auxiliary Bishop Joseph Sartoris presided at the Mass where more than 30 priests concelebrated....."

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[quote name='pionono' date='Jul 10 2004, 04:27 PM']Schutte's most famous song, "Here I am, Lord" is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church, as the Los Angeles Tidings' Brenda Rees reported on February 9, 2001:

"'Here I am, Lord. Is it I, Lord? I have heard you calling in the night. I will go Lord if you lead me. I will hold your people in my heart.'

"The refrain of Dan Schutte's familiar opening refrain that filled St. Dominic Church in Eagle Rock Feb. 4 set the tone for the warm, almost-summer evening, where more than 400 people gathered to celebrate 15 years of the Ministry with Lesbian and Gay Catholics (MLGC).

"'Here I am, Lord' is, in ways, an unofficial motto for the ministry that has grown and found its place within not only the Los Angeles Archdiocese but also the cities and parishes where it has taken root. The MLGC encourages gay and lesbian Catholics to remain (or return to) their parishes to fully participate in the service and life of the church [sic].

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Umm... Check out 1 Samuel 3:

[quote]
1 During the time young Samuel was minister to the LORD under Eli, a revelation of the LORD was uncommon and vision infrequent.
2
One day Eli was asleep in his usual place. His eyes had lately grown so weak that he could not see.
3
The lamp of God was not yet extinguished, and Samuel was sleeping in the temple of the LORD where the ark of God was.
4
The LORD called to Samuel, who answered, "Here I am."
5
He ran to Eli and said, "Here I am. You called me." "I did not call you," Eli said. "Go back to sleep." So he went back to sleep.
6
Again the LORD called Samuel, who rose and went to Eli. "Here I am," he said. "You called me." But he answered, "I did not call you, my son. Go back to sleep."
7
At that time Samuel was not familiar with the LORD, because the LORD had not revealed anything to him as yet.
8
The LORD called Samuel again, for the third time. Getting up and going to Eli, he said, "Here I am. You called me." Then Eli understood that the LORD was calling the youth.
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So he said to Samuel, "Go to sleep, and if you are called, reply, 'Speak, LORD, for your servant is listening.'" When Samuel went to sleep in his place,
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the LORD came and revealed his presence, calling out as before, "Samuel, Samuel!" Samuel answered, "Speak, for your servant is listening."
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The LORD said to Samuel: "I am about to do something in Israel that will cause the ears of everyone who hears it to ring.
12
On that day I will carry out in full against Eli everything I threatened against his family.
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I announce to him that I am condemning his family once and for all, because of this crime: though he knew his sons were blaspheming God, he did not reprove them.
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Therefore, I swear to the family of Eli that no sacrifice or offering will ever expiate its crime."
15
Samuel then slept until morning, when he got up early and opened the doors of the temple of the LORD. He feared to tell Eli the vision,
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but Eli called to him, "Samuel, my son!" He replied, "Here I am."
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2 Then Eli asked, "What did he say to you? Hide nothing from me! May God do thus and so to you if you hide a single thing he told you."
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So Samuel told him everything, and held nothing back. Eli answered, "He is the LORD. He will do what he judges best."
19
Samuel grew up, and the LORD was with him, not permitting any word of his to be without effect.
20
Thus all Israel from Dan to Beer-sheba came to know that Samuel was an accredited prophet of the LORD. [/quote]

I guess we need to throw out Chopin and Tchaikovsky too (gay). "Here I Am" is a beautiful song.

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[quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Jul 10 2004, 07:36 PM'] Umm... Check out 1 Samuel 3:



I guess we need to throw out Chopin and Tchaikovsky too (gay). "Here I Am" is a beautiful song. [/quote]
Not to mention Oscar Wilde, Willa Cather, and other authers as well...

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I find the Gather hymnal generally to be a little sappy for my tastes, but "Here I Am, Lord," is a beautiful song.

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Oscar Wilde's a little off the deep end, but Dorian Gray was.... entertaining.. :lol:

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One of my favorite songs we use to welcome catechumens to the Church.

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tho i have to agree, Pio, a lot of Schutte's music annoys the heck out of me! I'll have to make a list of dislikes.

I don't mind the lyrics so much, but musically, "Here I am, Lord" is poorly written.

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I'd like "Here I Am Lord" more if the refrain didn't remind me of the Brady Bunch theme. <_<

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[quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Jul 10 2004, 06:36 PM'] I guess we need to throw out Chopin and Tchaikovsky too (gay). "Here I Am" is a beautiful song. [/quote]
I agree. We can't just throw away everything created by people who are gay.

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I think his lifestyle influenced his music much more than those who lived and worked in societies where such aberrations were less than accepted. Edited by pionono

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Furthermore, Chopin and Tchaikovsky did not have a virtual monopoly on Churh music. Come to think of it, they were not even Catholic. There is no comparison. Wilde converted and left that lifestyle and to my knowledge his perverse lifestyle did not overly influence what he wrote.

Apart from that, Dan Schutte's mucic is as insipid as it gets.

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From what our Brit Lit teacher told us, Wilde's last words on his deathbed were,

"Either this wallpaper goes, or I go."

:lol:

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[quote name='immaculata' date='Jul 10 2004, 10:21 PM'] From what our Brit Lit teacher told us, Wilde's last words on his deathbed were,

"Either this wallpaper goes, or I go."

:lol: [/quote]
That's just wrong.....I don't care who you are....

:crackup:

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Wilde had some decent stuff. Schutte... well, no.

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this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen...

it's been assumed for centuries that Michelangelo was a homosexual, should we bleach the Sistene Chapel?

just because a person struggles (or even currently gives into their struggle) with same-sex attraction doesn't make everything that they've ever created or been involved with an inherent evil.

quit throwing stones...

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[quote name='ryanmeyersmusic' date='Jul 10 2004, 11:52 PM'] this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen...

it's been assumed for centuries that Michelangelo was a homosexual, should we bleach the Sistene Chapel?

just because a person struggles (or even currently gives into their struggle) with same-sex attraction doesn't make everything that they've ever created or been involved with an inherent evil.

quit throwing stones... [/quote]
He is gay. His music is gay. Worse yet, his music is some of the most insipid carp infecting the Church today. Quit throwing stones? His lifetsyle has infected his work.

Michelangelo? The claims have never been proven, nor has there been much proof offered. Even so, if he was, his work never showed it. I'm afraid the same cannot be said for Schutte. Like I said before, I am not surprised by this news and it explains alot.

Quit throwing stones? What stones? Fire away...

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[quote name='pionono' date='Jul 11 2004, 12:06 AM'] He is gay. His music is gay. [/quote]
we have come so far... I guess that goes for Michelangelo too with all those paintings of necked-folks :shootme:

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Personally, I don't like Schutte's music. Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's gay, it has to do with my opinion that he's a rotten composer. Perhaps a swell lyricist, but I want to shoot myself everytime I have to sing one of his little ditties.

But, some people obviously like him. I think it's a shame that he's gay. I am concerned about the double standard, though. I know organists, music directors and other people in church ministries who have been removed from their jobs because they are openly homosexual. Why should Dan Schutte be any different?

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Here I am is one of the most obnoxious songs we are forced to sing. It doesn't really have anything to do with the author's orientation. However, it is a valid question to ask if someone living in a relationship contrary to God's law should be filling our hymnals.

peace...

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[quote name='immaculata' date='Jul 11 2004, 12:40 AM'] I am concerned about the double standard, though. I know organists, music directors and other people in church ministries who have been removed from their jobs because they are openly homosexual. Why should Dan Schutte be any different? [/quote]
Well he's not a priest anymore. How can the songs of a single santioned priest be thrown out when a large number of our hymns are actually protestant - esp. written during moments in history when protestants really really didn't like Catholics. Today we sing them because there has been some sort of reconciliation and a movement for ecumenism - which I actually sort of agree with reservations - this is why I don't think the argument works. Did he write Eagle's Wings? Edited by M.SIGGA

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Pray for the man. We all have our temptations and shortcomings.

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I don't have that bad habit of leaving right after Communion anymore... but if the communion hymn is "Here I Am Lord", I'm sorry, I'm bailin'.

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Besides the fact that this is gossip, and that's a sin:

Here's the pages you better start ripping out of your hymnals...

A
A Time Will Come For Singing
All My Days
All One People
As I Have Done For You
B
Before The Sun Burned Bright
Behold The Wood
Be My Refuge
Blessed Are You
Blessed Are You (Response)
Blessed Are You (Baptism Acclamation)
Blest Be The Lord
C
Child Of God's Great Love
Christ, Circle Round Us
City Of God
Come To The River
Come Unto Me All Who Are Weary
Come With Me Into The Fields
Come With Praise
D
Dayenu Litany
E
Eucharistic Acclamation
Ever On My Lips
F
For The Beauty
G
Give Thanks To The Lord
Glory And Praise To Our God
Glory In The Cross
Glory To God
Glory To God (Mass of God's Promise)
God Of Our Life
God With Us
God Of Love
Gospel Acclamation (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen (Mass of God's Promise)
Great Amen
Great Amen (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
H
Happy Is The Man
Here I Am, Lord
Holy
Holy (Mass of God's Promise)
Holy (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Holy
Holy Darkness
Holy Is God/Pange Lingua
Hosanna To The Son Of David
How Long, O Lord
I
I Cry To You
I Found The Treasure
If The Lord Does Not Build
InThe Morning
Invocations To Jesus Christ
J
Jesus Christ Is Risen Today
Join In The Dance
L
Lamb Of God Litany (St. Louis Jesuit Mass)
Lamb Of God Litany (Mass of God's Promise)
Lenten Gospel Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Let All Who Thirst
Let the Valleys Be Raised
Let Us Go To The Altar
Like Cedars
Like The Deer
Litany Of Saints
Lives Brought Together
Lord, Have Mercy
Lover Of Us All
M
Mass Of God's Promise
May Love Be Ours
Meadows And Mountains
Memorial Acclamation (Mass of God's Promise)
Memorial Acclamation (St. Louis Jeusit Mass)
Memorial Acclamation
Most Holy Night
Mountains And Hills
My Soul Thirsts
O
Only This I Want
On This Most Holy Day
P
Pilgrim Companions
Profession Of Faith
Psalm 150
R
River Of Glory
S
See The Lilies
Send Us Your Spirit
Servant Song
Sing A New Song
Sing, O Sing
So The Love Of God
Song Of Farewell
Song Of Mary
Song Of Praise
T
Table Of Plenty
This Is The Day
Though The Mountains May Fall
V
Valleys Of Green
W
Wake From Your Sleep
We Beseech You (Solemn Intercessions)
We Sing The Savior's Glory
We Will Journey In Faith
What You Hear In The Dark
Where Love Is Found
With Drums And Dancing
With Merry Dancing
Y
Yahweh The Faithful One
You Are Near

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[quote name='pionono' date='Jul 10 2004, 04:27 PM']
"'Here I am, Lord. Is it I, Lord? I have heard you calling in the night. I will go Lord if you lead me. I will hold your people in my heart.'

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Personally, I've never made the connection between this song and the "intrinsic disorders" rights movement, but if the author REALLY took the words "I will go Lord if you lead me" he would realize that the Lord would lead people OUT of homosexual lifestyles, not into them.

Another thing: since Schutte is/was in the Jesuits, would the royalties go to him personally or to the Jesuits?

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